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The message from the book is know thy self
But why, then, am I here seeking help
Craving deliverance from all of my sins
When I can pray to you from within.

Like sheep we come to hear you preach
But who are you to interpret the lordís speech?
Pushing and thrusting upon me your own agenda
I seek more depth when I attend your hacienda

Speaking from your pulpit, pretending to care
When half the congregation knows of your affair
You smile while siphoning money from the collection
Pastor! Stop! Youíre short changing the congregation.

Driving around in a pimped out escalade
Itís time the masses exposed this charade
Jesusí words used for your own gain
Akin to Lucifer, you have no shame.

Pushing and cajoling, who are you to think for me?
Iíll remedy the word of the lord the way it should be
I can pray in solitude, and with greater depth
So, please, dear pastor, donít waste your breath.

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The following comments are for "There is no God"
by MattS

seeing is believing
Ah, to those who just don't get it yet, you are right, there is no God.

As a matter of fact, there is no Paris, France, either, until you go there, and see it, and feel it, and live and enjoy it. But when you do, you confirm all of those rumors about there being such a place, and guess what, then, yes then, when you see it and feel it and ezperience it, then you believe. Then you know it. And you LOVE IT.

( Posted by: VEEbdosa [Member] On: February 22, 2011 )

Right On Veeb!
Right on's a thing called FAITH!


( Posted by: Beatrice Boyle [Member] On: February 22, 2011 )

The lack of faith on the part of someone sermonizing is different than there being no god. the poem needs another stanza or two to pull it together and help the casual reader realize what the real intent of poem is.

( Posted by: bhagwandave [Member] On: February 23, 2011 )

Yes, I agree the poem does need work and the title does need looking at.

It is true that anything only exists within our heads as we all have our own reality. But then faith comes from within and we don't need to be told what to think, feel, do by those who have been ordained to interpret the book for us. We can all do that for ourselves.

I guess I didn't get the point across adequately, as I do believe there is a god, just sometimes question the motives of those preaching about God.

Religion has the problem of creating in groups and out groups. An example is the doctor and his wife who pay for a stained glass window get a pue named after them whilst the family struggling to survive, yet who make it to church every week don't get enough recognition.

Nietzsche said that God is dead, sometimes I think its worth questioning if he is dead who killed him? Pastors, the congregation or a mix of both?

( Posted by: MattS [Member] On: February 23, 2011 )

God Help Us
There certainly is a God somewhere

I am with Ron Wilson on this one.

Those that believe have already found him

The rest of us will keep on looking till we find our God or till we Kick the Bucket and he/she/it finds us.

I don't know about the world starting with a Big Bang....but I would like mine to end with one


( Posted by: Fairplay [Member] On: February 23, 2011 )

Alive and kicking!
I thought you got your point across exquisitely! Reading this made me see your beef is with the clergy not with God. The title pulls you in thinking otherwise but the poem is clear that it is a ONE on ONE with God that is truly real!

I enjoyed and agree that the personal relationship with our creator is much more than anything any one else can offer. We read/hear/pray and HE hears/listens and answers. I guess middle men can be useful at times but I love being able to go directly to the big man!


( Posted by: nae411 [Member] On: March 3, 2011 )

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