Gone But Not Forgotten
by Pen (Member) - published: February 9, 2011
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LitOgre's Ball

Okay, I knew this was here and was wondering how my posts had been 'handled' in this circumstance. Guess what? The only thing that's left is because arc did the original post.

Imagine, if you will, the mind set of the person who did the deleting. I think it would be an obsessive compulsive sort of person who couldn't be content just removing posts but had to scrub all the comments too no matter how discombobulated the result.

The deletions happened in early 2010 or late 2009 and, at the time, I was barely here. It wasn't as if I'd been banned during .. what was that called .. the inquisition. Not my word but I like it.

The other thing about deleting my comments, it's not something I can do by accessing my account. It goes towards proving I wasn't guilty which makes me wonder about the acumen of whoever did this.

Another point I'd like to make is that old posts are minus the comments I made and believe me I made plenty. My comment to post ratio usually ranged between 15-21 per post. If you don't know what I mean check out your stats by going to Control Panel Home listed on the side of the page.

Right now I believe my stats are 18 to 1. So, I'm staying true to form.

Why did I return? Because Chrispian did who, during the past, managed the site with diplomacy and never behaved like a megalomaniacal monster.

Any old timer reading this will know I don't mean Stuart. Please readers, don't sully this post with the name we all want to forget. But perhaps you can understand why it's more difficult for some of us to do so. Maybe you will be kind enough to appreciate the loyalty factor at play here when it comes to the number of us who were victims [yes victims] of the nefarious deeds. All of them were my deeply respected friends and those who weren't annihilated drifted away and they've [for the most part] returned for similar reasons to mine.

Those who get perplexed when I re-post poetry and prose that you've seen here before please allow me the latitude to do so and be tolerant. It's a healing process and I don't need to be reminded of the injustice of it all. I doubt I'd even welcome an ... oh I remember this one .. because, believe me, I do too!

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"Tigers bloom where there's oodles of room." Zodiac Zoo

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The following comments are for "Gone But Not Forgotten"
by Pen

re-posting Pen
I'm lucky I didn't get anything deleted that I didn't delete myself...you should have seen my inbox when I cam back last week... a place I'd failed to vacate before I left. There were 31 PM's rotting in there. It was a ghost town with PM's from "invalid user", and that's where I saw who else beside you had gone...

It's not likely that my new comments on your re-posts will be the same as my old comments, but maybe there will be something useful anyway...

Lucie

( Posted by: windchime [Member] On: February 9, 2011 )

Time Frame
Gone but not forgotten

They always say what doesn't kill you just makes you stronger, though I do have some doubts about that.

I am still smiling at the Englishman Piers Morgan taking over from Larry King..... He interviewed Queen Noor of Jordan...(an American nee Elizabeth Najeeb Halaby)...An English girl(Toni Gardener) that went to the same school as me in Kuala Lumpur Malaya married King Hussein of Jordan becoming Princess Muna al-Hussein her son (Abdullah who went to the same Academy as my son Stephen) is currently King of Jordan and his wife (Rania Al-Yassin)is queen.....

Jordan Has two Queens? but the King is Half English

Then there is Obama "Hussein" a native of Honolulu

Err it takes all types to make the world the more I learn the less I understand...

Though (just a vague guess)quintessentially Lit.org is pretty much same as ever...No one has really disappeared died deceased as such ... just switched (chameleon like) verbal disguises often quite badly, dropping a clangers now and again.... Clair was the best "Role-player" probably because we were all so new and gullible (to the lit site anyway) back then. Didn't do us any harm and actually made me more aware if not less trusting of life on the www.

I carried out a little experiment while out today remembering what Pen said about folk hiding in cyberspace....

Rather than turn a blind eye I observed (probably none of my business)People walking dogs during a cycle trip with my own dog to 75th Ave Frazer Park and on up to a Free Lunch (McDonald's Butter Biscuit) just off E Blvd Kerrisdale.

The first Guy with a Big Black dog stood for some moments as I cycled towards him watching his own dog crap on the side of the sidewalk I turned as I passed to see him strolling away without cleaning up... I turned back and explained his dog had just crapped on the pavement and maybe he should 'Clean it up" He waved a little plastic bag of "something" and said he always cleaned up... I mentioned nice try but your dogs crap is still steaming on the pavement..... He went back and cleaned up....

The second guy was watching his small dog crap in the middle of Frazer Park and had started to walk off when I passed nearby and said why not clean up after your dog.... He ignored me and started to walk up the hill. I dismounted and followed on foot....realizing I might find out where he lived he explained his dog had only peed... Rather than search for evidence I gave him the benefit of the doubt....but his dog had crapped I saw it.

The third (not to be sexist) I saw a girl with three Off leash dogs doing her best to look responsible as if she was looking for her dogs crap without finding it... Not sure if she was happy as using old military skills I directed her to the "said heap"

Of course it would have been so easy just to keep my mouth shut and not risk a "Smack in the Gob" but I felt it was my duty to be Real Today.

I awarded myself with the McDonalds Free Butter Biscuit of which I gave half to my dog... I dont normally go in McDonalds...and was surprised it tasted OK, of course I had to buy a coffee or I would have felt guilty.

( Posted by: Fairplay [Member] On: February 9, 2011 )

Invalid
I haven't been around much the past 3 years, so I am behind on the workings of Lit. I have, however 51 pms from assorted members and other personas. I am confused as to who the invalid users are in my inbox. Some seem to be people I trust. Others I recognise as she who shall not be named. I would like to post here and be a part of this site but I remain wary. Sorry. Charlie.

( Posted by: williamhill [Member] On: February 10, 2011 )

Hey Charlie!
Look at it this way .. there's a passel of us here again that you do know and trust. Come on down comrade!
ps Thanks for the name omission and dropping by and .. well .. just being you.

( Posted by: Pen [Member] On: February 10, 2011 )

Refrigerator noting.
Greetings Charlie,
Hope to hear your voice here..again.

salute

( Posted by: Bobby7L [Member] On: February 10, 2011 )

Hi Pen
Well, first thanks for the hearty re-welcome and comments on my first "new" post. Yeah, I left for a long while too, for my own reasons though.

YOu've always given honest comments and I'd never hold that against anyone. Well, seems like we now have a lot of returning Lit veterans...look forward to this next chapter in our shared poetry exploits.

BW

( Posted by: BWOz [Member] On: February 10, 2011 )

Of lost pennings
Penelope,
As said elsewhere, it's truly disheartening.

You, as well as Lucie, have big comment-to-post ratios. It is something newer members and a few who've been around for years, could learn something from. By commenting/introducing yourself at other posts, you are more likely to receive visits/comments in return. It's not rocket surgery. At many sites, there is a minimal 3-1 ratio expected. Having said that, 600 posts and 60 comments is upside down.

I look forward to reading your older pieces again. I'm sure there were many I missed, as well.

( Posted by: Bobby7L [Member] On: February 10, 2011 )

@ Brian/Bobby
Hey Brian .. yes .. I was delighted to see you back for many reasons but mostly because of your writing style which is quirky ... unique. I said .. very recently .. that what happened to many of us was like a public book burning. I chose to post this in the blog section because it's history but there is no way many of us will ever forget .. but .. we are willing to move on. Out LitOrg loyalties run very deep. That's gotta be a good thing.
Bobby, I've done a few rants about people who don't comment but expect to have everyone pay attention to them. LitOrg .. to me is a community and while I know lots of folks here have busy lives .. they post here to be read and most for feedback too. So, what's with ignoring the other party? Kind of like expecting bows and scrapes with no accountability. Sure there's lots of those in the world but it doesn't mean I have to approve. I wouldn't want a requirement though. Don't like rules much.

( Posted by: Pen [Member] On: February 11, 2011 )

Bad Karma
I for one hold no grudges. There is nothing I can do about the past so I've let it go. Yea, I'm in the same boat as you regarding comments I posted but so what. We're still standing.

Reading your blog reminded me of a poem I wrote regarding my deletion. I posted it to my livejournal page and our Irish friend was the only one to read it. For a split second, I considered posting it here while reading your post but I honestly see no point in dredging up the past.

As for Stuart, I think he is an honest person who made a valiant effort with this site. But the odds were not in his favor as long as she was. He let me back in and I can only imagine what went on behind the scenes because of it. I wish him well and hope he continues as an active member.

Anything else would be uncivilized.

( Posted by: toscano [Member] On: February 11, 2011 )

Charlie, Brian et al!
First of all...welcome back Charlie and Brian.
So good to see your names on the board.

Charlie...I don't think we have to worry about multiple persona's any more, as Chris can see the computers ID and be able to weed them out...he's a pretty savvy guy, and determined to make it work this time.

As we ALL are, except for a couple of attention wanna be's who just like to stir the pot for the fun of it. I've never left Lit, nor do I intend to...and when I do...I expect my family to post my obit as my final post here...but not for a long while yet..NO ONE is going to run me off the site...so...they will just have to deal with it!

Welcome home!
Bea

( Posted by: Beatrice Boyle [Member] On: February 11, 2011 )

Charlie, Brian et al.
First of all...welcome back Charlie and Brian.
So good to see your names on the board.

Charlie...I don't think we have to worry about multiple persona's any more, as Chris can see the computers ID and be able to weed them out...he's a pretty savvy guy, and determined to make it work this time.

As we ALL are, except for a couple of attention wanna be's who just like to stir the pot for the fun of it. I've never left Lit, nor do I intend to...and when I do...I expect my family to post my obit as my final post here...but not for a long while yet..NO ONE is going to run me off the site...so...they will just have to deal with it!

( Posted by: Beatrice Boyle [Member] On: February 11, 2011 )

OOOPS!
Sorry folks...It kept telling me that my Name and password didn't match, so I did it again.

Can't wait for Cris to fix it so we can edit the comments!

( Posted by: Beatrice Boyle [Member] On: February 11, 2011 )

never will
I remember when Chrispian first created the Blogs category, way back when. Crazy how much time has passed. A punch in the gut, sometimes. There were a lot of great writers -- I hope they all come back.

And I hope the Write Off makes a return. It was always a pleasure to see two writers duel on the front page.

( Posted by: slackjaw [Member] On: February 17, 2011 )

Write Offs
Francisco - no, I never blamed Stuart either. I can only imagine how much harder it would have been for him. I see no reason not to post old poetry or whatever here. It's not like it has a sell by date or anything.

I've been thinking that those deleted posts not only were outrageous acts against the authors but against all those who commented too.

wild horses huh?
I remember the Write Offs too. I was in three of them and it's another sore spot with me that they were deleted because I always considered them a community event. Taking one out of play kind of makes the other one look out of sync. Would I go in another Write Off? You betcha!

( Posted by: Pen [Member] On: February 17, 2011 )

Dawn
I'm glad to be back so far. It's been a blast reading people's work again, commenting, imagining. As long as that continues, I'll be here in some capacity.

I'm still saddened by the memory of all the posts and comments that were deleted. Like Pen, my comment-to-post ratio was high -- commenting on the efforts of others has always been part of the fun. Some of my old posts may reappear here, but some are gone forever because they were typed directly into the mighty Lit engine.

But let's not let memories of she-who-will-not-be-named sully the present. It's a new dawn, and I hope Stuart is an active contributor to the site!

Let's welcome all who wish to be welcomed, and are welcoming. :)

( Posted by: manatee [Member] On: February 17, 2011 )

return to glory days
I'm with you Michael .. it's been a total hoot since I dropped by here on January 29th or 30th. Fabulous!
It's why I put this post in the blog section and kept it off the main marquee.

( Posted by: Pen [Member] On: February 18, 2011 )

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