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Hey everyone, Red Pupil here. Look- A few of my friends refuse to join this site because they say no one reads their stuff. I've sub,itted myself, and I've noticed it as well...there seems to be a shortage of feedback. I've joined this site under four different names and have recieved a total of one comment. So come on...let's read other people's compositions and tell them how incredible or even how lousy they did. There's nothing worse than waiting to see if people like your story, what they rated it...and then BAM, blank. I think it will motivate people to keep going, to keep writing, if they know people are reading what they work so hard to create. I for one plan to do my part. Who's with me?

Bobby Yates, alias Red Pupil


The following comments are for "Commenting to encourage writers"
by Red Pupil

I Agree x2
Totally right. If someone reads someone elses work, then out of respect You should post a comment, or at least rate it.

( Posted by: Adrian Shepard [Member] On: May 4, 2003 )

making the effort
First up, I agree with you, up to a point.

I try to post comments as often as possible, but even I can't comment on everything. I have been a bit quiet recently, though.

There have been messages posted here before on this subject, so you're not the only one who's had the same result. But others have had a much better response.

Here are my thoughts on how a writer can improve the situation for themselves:

Firstly, post comments yourself. I see you have posted a few, so this isn't aimed at you, but many who complain about lack of comments haven't posted any of their own, which does make the complaint seem a bit rich.

Secondly, the title is important. People only see the title on the main page, so if it sounds interesting, it might get a bit more attention.

Thirdly, there is a certain amount of luck involved (well... a lot, actually). Some of my poems have had a whole lot of comments, and others have had none at all. It depends on how many visitors come to the site overall (it does vary), how many other pieces of writing are posted (ie how much competition do you have? and how quickly did your title fall off the front page?), and any number of other factors... including good old luck.

Finally, you mentioned that you've used several different user names here. Just a personal opinion, but I think you might get better results if you stick with one name; people will get used to seeing your name as you post more often, and you may actually see people reading your work just based on an author name they recognise.

( Posted by: Spudley [Member] On: May 4, 2003 )

completely agree

I think this is problem most of us have. Though, there also appears to be a level of favouritism, or 'clichés' whatever you want to call it. You see the same people commenting on the same authors and vice versa. I like the website and think it is a great resource for writers, but, it can be a little disheartening when I see 20 or more hits and no comments; and yet I am making an effort myself.
I agree with spud, about the title, I have noticed lots of my work has been passed over simply because of the title. So I sit wrecking my brain for enticing titles.
Bottom line is, we are all in the 'same game', we write and we want comments, feedback etc.
Let’s get some comaraderie going here and support each other.
All the best,

( Posted by: c.lynagh [Member] On: May 4, 2003 )

pot luck
As Spudley has already stated we see similar issues on the site at least once every couple of months, and there is a certain element of luck involved in getting comments. Title seems to be an important factor as well as how quickly your work goes off the front page. But the real secret in my opinion has more to do with how much you comment on other people's work, for good or bad. People tend to look for the works of authors whose names they recognize as reading their own work. Another suggestion is that if someone puts a comment on your work, let them know you appreciate the feedback and the effort they put into letting you know what they thought of your work. The more activity your work sees due to comments the more likely it is to get more. I suspect that lots of folks use the comments to pick only the items others found either suprisingly good or bad to read. It's a fast paced world we live in, leisure time is hard to come by, so more than anything else write your ass off, and be active in the community here. Everything else comes out in the wash.

( Posted by: Bartleby [Member] On: May 5, 2003 )

re commenting
Hrm. I'd say I could list the poeple who comment on a regular basis on both hands. New people come in all the time and complain they don't get comments right away - I wish every post got comments but they don't. I've thought of various ways to solve the problem and I have a few ideas. I want comments to be AS important or more important they the posts. I'll go over the system with staff and see what they think then post it to the site to see if everyone likes it. If so, we might get more comments!

Second, some good advice was given here to get more comments. Switching names isn't only bad form, the owner of the site doesn't like that very much (that would be me lol). When you post, each time you do your name gets seen, which tends to build recognition. Long time members tend to invest their time commenting on other long time members because they know that investment will pay off. We get new users who come to the site, post once or twice and leave. So I can understand why certain (more active) users get more comments. It's always the way things are in every situation.

I've got some changes planned to make things much better for comments and the way new posts are displayed that I think will help. If you'll take a look around you'll notice I'm very proactive about making changes to suit the needs of the members. That's what this site is for. Other sites may be a bit more active - but you get lost in the noise. We also don't charge or have near the amount of ads as the other writing sites... who's goal is clearly making money.

I feel your pain and I know I'll do my best to help get more comments and I expect you to do your best to give them. Quid pro quo.

( Posted by: Chrispian [Admin] On: June 10, 2003 )

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