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I brought up this songwriting challenge idea to a few of the songsmithies on the site. The Game is this, each month I will present another tag line as the basis for a song. Each writer then pens a song using the words I post. It should be an interesting exercise. Everyone is welcome to join in. When you are happy with your song post it. More than one song is fine. Poets here that have never written a song - now's the time to give it a go. If you know a newbee songwriter, hobby songwriter, or old pro, have them sign up on and join in.

Okay ya'all here is the Game. The tag is 'All alone' The simple rules are that you must use the tag 'All alone' in the chorus/refrain - OR 'All alone' must be within a line of verse in every stanza. Other than that - no rules. I will comment on every Game post and every writer should (But not required} comment on all the other Game posts.

Though there is no genre restrictions - it would be a great learning tool if each songwriter opened each post with a short comment on what genre they were writing in. ie: Blues, Ballad, Bluegrass, Country, Country Rock, Rock, Torch, Hard rock, Americana, Folk or any sub-genre you would create. This would help the reader 'hear' your words. And perhaps, also a short note as to the inspiration for the song. (This is always interesting.)


"ALL ALONE" August's Game .

Have fun!

Why is doing what you love the hardest thing to do? Is it because failing what you thought defined you would be too devastating a thing from which to recover? If so, we stay where mere accident has left us.

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The following comments are for "Songwriting Challenge"
by jonpenny

@ jonpenny
This is wonderful! I'm so excited!

I'm wondering if we could run this under the "Write Off?" It hasn't been used in awhile. I'm going to play with the banner now, and see what's involved with that.


( Posted by: OchaniLele [Member] On: August 8, 2009 )

It still works!
The write off banner still works!

We don't have to use it for this challenge, but, it would be nice to revamp it for future use. Remember -- there can only be 2 contestants in each write off.

I'll be brainstorming some more!


( Posted by: OchaniLele [Member] On: August 8, 2009 )

Songwriting challenge, great idea!
Yeah, Ken, great idea!

Stuart, maybe it can be incorporated into the old WRITE-OFF pages and revamped,eh? That would be oh so cool...have a SONG-OFF;-)


( Posted by: TheRealKarmaTseringLhamo [Member] On: August 8, 2009 )

Song Challenge@ Ochani
My thinking was that more people get involved - perhaps even multuple posts by the same writer in any given month. Maybe it could be simultaneous - after the first month - two who wish to do a 'song off' could go head to head while the Chalenge is still on for that month. I'll set up two word tags one for the Challenge and one for the Song Off. Or you pick a word tag for the 'Song Off' Then I could saddle up. Does that make sense?

( Posted by: jonpenny [Member] On: August 8, 2009 )

Songwriting Challenge
*puts thinking cap on*. NB: any similarity between thinking cap and the feckless blathering cap are purely coincidental. ;)...

great stuff, and I will certainly give this a god. you inspired me to pen one of my infrequent ditties the other day, which should post tomorrow, I think. but this, this is raising the stakes somewhat. I will do my best to be worthy of the challenge. thnak you for this.

( Posted by: AuldMiseryGuts [Member] On: August 9, 2009 )

Song Writing Challenge
I'd love to try my hand at this. I'll be watching to see how yall decide to do it, and I'll definatly give it a shot.

( Posted by: HeRoCoMpLeX [Member] On: August 9, 2009 )

Song Challenge
Shannon: I'm looking forward to both.
Herocomplex: Don't wait and watch. Write. Thanks you for joining in.

Just so you all know, I too am working on the Challenge . I don't anyone to think for a moment that I pick words from a song I have already penned - I would find that dishonest. So my word picks are to challenge me as well. In fact - if anyone has a word/words set to use as the basis for the Challenge, PM me. I will pick them based on the widest genre appeal. For example: 'The Spermatid Zeppelin Failed' though clever (I think) would not be one I would pick as a Song Challenge word set. If you want to write a song with that title, you may do so independently of the Challenge. ;)
Have fun!

( Posted by: jonpenny [Member] On: August 9, 2009 )

@Ochani on the Song Off
The Song Off should be difficult and the testing of metal.
The Song Off could go like this: Pick three genres for the competition. Set up basic structure and basic theme guidelines for each genre - (this is a teaching tool for others new songwriters on the site.
ie: Blues is structued musically as 1-4-5 with varaitions, Four line verses two line turnarounds - bridge or not.

Country: Four line verses - four line chorus - tag lines (OK) - bridge.

Folk/story: Open verses - some type of refrain.

Free form; Must be singable - meter counts.

Other ideas?

( Posted by: jonpenny [Member] On: August 9, 2009 )

@ jonpenny
My idea is this: Keep it simple. If you make too many rules, you might stifle creativity, or dampen member participation.

I think you should offer a challenge with one stanza, or one line, or even a phrase, around which the lyrics must be written. And to differentiate the challenge posts from the other posts, maybe require that the participants title their offering "[MONTH'S] Lyrical Challenge."

And then, go from there, determing the winner based on ratings, member comments, and personal taste.

Just a few suggestions . . . it's YOUR pet project, and a wonderful one at that. Just remember to have fun with it. If nothing else, writing is meant to be fun!

At least I think so!


( Posted by: OchaniLele [Member] On: August 10, 2009 )

The 'Challenge' is on 'All Alone'. I trust you are addressing the 'Song Off'. I don't knpw why you would rise against the simple rules I suggested - it is your siten and you should and will have the final say on how the song off will look.
Here's the reason for the rules I offered:
Three genres will allow for apple and orange comparisons. The word sets are critical for 'hook' development. NO rules past that. I, a songwriter, wouldn't want a blues song judged against a torch song any more than a haiku should be judged against a sonnet. Winner by rate and comments -for sure!

From a songwriting perspective I don't know how to make it simpler.Perhaps just one genre and words set at a time? Any other ideas out there? Let's hear from the songsmiths - ya'all let us know how you want the song off to look.

( Posted by: jonpenny [Member] On: August 10, 2009 )

Off-key query
Must one write music or merely lyrics? Would submitting a song to the tune of a different song be kosher, ala "America, The Beautiful" vs "God Save the (King or Queen, dependent upon the preferences of the Monarch)?

( Posted by: drsoos [Member] On: August 11, 2009 )

Song Challenge query
No worries! This is a writing forum and for me the songwriter and the composer are two different elements. It's important to understand meter/ measured vreses/time signatures/ and musical structure, but poetry and lyric are interchangeable. 'MacArthur Park' a less glorious example. 'Whiter Shade of Pale' another. I might also bring out that a great many Wesleyan hymns were written over rowdy and lewd drinking songs.
How many songs were written over the 'Angel Baby' chordal structure C-Am-F and G?
So to all - pick your tune and write away!
Thanks for the great question.

'All Alone'

( Posted by: jonpenny [Member] On: August 11, 2009 )

@ jonpenny
In that case . . . your rules sound fine! As long as you and everyone is having fun with it, then it's a good thing.

I can't wait to see what comes of this! I'm sure it will be wonderful!


( Posted by: OchaniLele [Member] On: August 14, 2009 )

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