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4:24 in the morning.
You know-41 years ago.
100 feet off the ground.
GRUNTS-pounding ground.
MY-non-BROTHER-BROTHERS.
memos-memos-memos.
VINEYARD-war of aged-WINE TIME.
[[[[[TRAGIC-TRAGIC-KENNEDY-KING}}}}}}}?
10 million cars in a RICE PADDY - WHY-4:29-AM-TIME-TIME.
COWBOY-COWBOY-#-1-tell COWBOY-10.00 dollars-[ok].....
LBJ, landed in CAN RHAN BAY-sun-oil-[I'm sure].
NO-NO-GOD-GOD-B-52-rain drop BOMBS-[again]-[TONS][TONS]............
[[[[ on the 50 yard line-SNAP-NAMATH has the ball]]]]]]- GOD.
IN- Viet Nam-[roll another one-great STUFF]-[[MAN]]-[[MAN]].........
[camp]-[[great vintage war] - GOLD - GOLD - [top secret].............
Shurrrrrrrrrr-[don't tell the MOM's & DAD's]- MY SON.......
******MOVIE STARTS AT 8:00********$2.50 adults 1.25 kids..........
VIET NAM - popcorn - VIET NAN - popcorn........................
4:33-cry time-4:33 cry time-4:33 cry time.....................
GOD to Moses:"I AM, THAT, I am".............................................
Cain killed Abel-America killed Viet Nam............................
ME-4:35-AM-just let me yell !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3/29/2009 Joe Poewhit

JESUS SAVES


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The following comments are for "VIET NAM"
by poewhit

Vietnam Travesty!
God this is heartrendering! This was was a tragic, monstrous war...no one got out alive...some physically maybe...but sans spirit, sans trust, sans innocence and most of all...sans hope that they will ever be the same again!

God bless you all (including my late son-in-law John) and forgive the hateful, spittin, jeering crowds that greeted you on your return home!

Your country didn't honor you then, but your God has...and I do too!!

Bea

( Posted by: Beatrice Boyle [Member] On: March 20, 2009 )

Vietnam
Very interesting form. Good job. The free association is how I hold those times.
I was married with kids when the Tet launched. I was working as a welder in a shipyard building LST's. My sense of the war then was - if we were in it we needed to be. The more the war became a political toy the angrier I and others became. I had no peacenik qualities but I had a sense of right and wrong and Johnson and Nixon were wrong. I found myself transformed into a counter culture rock and roll maven simply because there had to be another way. I saw my father and all our fathers come back damaged from WW11 and thrown straight away into Korea. The plastic artificiality of made-up suburban living was a needed salve for the wounds invlicted on a generation. After WW11 the world had to be remade. The baby boom generation, raise in that medicinally alcohol drenched world, was alienated and rebeled. In my generation self awareness had become the Holy Grail with good and bad results.
Entitlement to often replaces resposibility and the quest for the material has replaced our spirituality

That model of that culture and 'Economy' is now collapsing. What will replace it - who knows?
Our country has become a force for the waging of War and the country's moral ethic has changed.
But as Dagger wrote my brother , cousins, uncles, friends were sent to that far off place and came back hated for what a misguided government demanded. I would not protest then because I was not protesting the soldiers conscribed to participate but I questioned the justification for keeping us there. As a country I weep now in gratitude, even now, for the security provided by my son, nephews, nieces and all in my family who do and have served.
Perhaps war is enivitable in the human animal but if we must we need to do it because it needs to be done and not for greed and political reasons. There is certainly 'evil' in the world and that we must stand against or perish. There is no simple solution to any conflict but we should pray for and honor those who have fought and died for us - whether you be grateful or ungratful whether you agree or disagree. All of us Liberal or Conservative should always remember that those brave others died, in all our wars - popular or unpopular - so we all can voice our opinions openly.
Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee do exist and we are all just Alice in wonderland. Hang on kids who knows what's coming. May God lead us and show us the way.
Ken

( Posted by: jonpenny [Member] On: March 22, 2009 )

@poewhit
That is one vicious mass of information. Reads like some of the scenes from "Jacob's Ladder". Like the war itself, it triggers feelings of anger, sadness, guilt and fear within me. Like the war, I don't like it one bit. The poem is pure creative madness, a textual Jackson Pollock.

Well done! Thank you for posting.

Brings me closer to understanding my uncle, who was on the ground during Tet.

"Everyone has their war. Everyone has their Vietnam. May we embark together on a pilgrimage of ending these wars and truly living peace." - Claude Anshin Thomas, from "At Hell's Gate"

- Jeff

( Posted by: Eldros [Member] On: March 23, 2009 )





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