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Today I met a sleeping man,
I said to him, "Wake up!", he
did not hear me the first time,
so I shouted again and again,
but sadly, he would not hear
me, he was content to remain
stubbornly in his full slumber.

"If you can't annoy somebody, there is little point in writing."

Kingsley Amis

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The following comments are for "State of Bliss Full Ignorance"
by MohammadJesusBernstein

Sleep walking is what we all do best lest we wake and discover we can not cope with what stands before us, In the sixth line is the word 'did' a typo. Otherwise good poem!
Bless you!

( Posted by: jonpenny [Member] On: March 10, 2009 )

My writing of the incorrect "did" is now undone. Thank you very much for pointing out my imperfection. I am indebted to your great eye of detail.


( Posted by: MohammadJesusBernstein [Member] On: March 10, 2009 )

Poojya Guru-ji , Pranam ( "Greetings dear Guru -ji')

Excuse any lese-majeste , but the way i see it : 'would' seems quite appropriate to what you're seeking to convey. That is ,"would' in the sense of being obdurate , refusing to hear etc .


( Posted by: RJKT [Member] On: March 11, 2009 )

RJKT - Guru-ji (formalities)
Yes, yes, you are very correct, astute indeed, you are, but please, please, be so kind as to do away with the formalities of addressing me as my many cousins in this family business seem insistent upon for the sake of "tradition". I am but a humble reformist wise-man, a mere simple guru, you can call me "Guru-Be" (short for my nickname, Guru-M.J.B., my mother calls me "Bernie") as you wish, whatever seems most pleasing to a well scraped disciple tongue or curiosity seeker.


( Posted by: MohammadJesusBernstein [Member] On: March 11, 2009 )

Thanks M. J.B.

So then Guru-Be it shall be , if okay by you that is. Quite Hamlet-ian I have to say.

Just wondering :why've you left out the 3rd Abrahamic Faith . ( IMHO these unholy trinity of Abrahamic faiths have visited untold suffering on most of us down the ages.)

This is over and above the Damoclean Sword that hangs over us minorities in Ram Rajya . ( You know the land of the Sheeva - Vishnoo -Parvati).

( Posted by: RJKT [Member] On: March 12, 2009 )

M..J...B Contd.
Though i daresay ,its nowhere near as bad as being a 'kaafir' in any of those Islamic Rethuglics (like Pakistan ) , those tin-pot Gulf Sheikdoms . And above all ,in the badlands of those truly depraved Saudi Wahabis.

( Posted by: RJKT [Member] On: March 12, 2009 )

Sleeping - literal v. figurative
Speaking from a purely literal sense, I've always insisted that being awake is highly over-rated. I spend my daylight hours in that state only under protest.

In your apparently-intended figurative/spiritual sense, I agree that too many of us choose unconsciousness, whether out of fear, ignorance, or an inability to focus sufficiently on the ever-present "bigger picture." I, for one, am easily distracted by shiny objects and movement within my field of (literal) vision, and there's just so much going on around me! Not that this activity lacks its own particular charm, but I could do without the ever-accumulating mountain of bills on the desk at my day job. Furthermore, the list of "all other duties as assigned" in my (mostly imaginary) job description continues to grow with each passing day. It does, however, continue to put food on the table, so I can't complain too vigorously - especially as my boss seems infinitely patient with the chaos overwhelming my workspace right outside his door.

So, Most Esteemed Guru-Be, how does the poor pilgrim move toward enlightenment in such circumstances?

I eagerly await your wisdom! Now, if you'll excuse me, I must go scrape my tongue. ; )

( Posted by: LinnieRed [Member] On: March 12, 2009 )

D**n comment formatting!
Don't you hate it when your emoticon is screwed up by a line break? : )

( Posted by: LinnieRed [Member] On: March 12, 2009 )

RJKT & LinnieRed both much too wise for this wisee-azz...
RJTK, my mother comes from a long line of Abra-hams and Ben-Yisraels though her maiden name was Seinfeld, does that count in the unholy trinity? Bernstein, Seinfeld, Abraham all the same matzoh ball flavor to me? Perhaps you can expand on what you mean concerning more of the evils unjustly heaped upon your people in the land of Ram Rajya? Do you mean the Taoist, Buddhists? I am fool and obviously ignorant guru in your eyes. You are a much more educated man than I, this I do admit, so I am your disciple, teach me. The teacher is student here, and the student the teacher or something along those lines, I always forget how that wise saying goes, must be my diet, not enough Omega3. Ah...time for more fish in my diet...yes:)


Sleeping is good, I like sleep. If I could sleep all the time I too would love to be under my cozy covers verses having to face a world of distractions...yet, you are correct, I spoke here of sleep in the spiritual sense of sleep not the physical. Awareness of inner self verses being led like the crow to the shining objects all around us that keep our head spinning in continual haze and endless mazes.

But, we are all not so lucky to be able to live in a cave high upon the mountain and spend our lives contemplating the state of our souls and the salvation of the world's sufferings, that is ulitmate luxury.

So, my advice is to find balance, take time each day to look at the clouds or a flower, or something simple like hugging a tree and find time to meditate upon that oneness and simple peace and uncomplicated beauty, when you are done, say bye bye simple things, and return from those moments of peace and emptiness back to the world neverending suffering of bill paying and zoom. Start cloud at a time. One rose at a time. One moment at a time.

Some can do this alone, others need help, so if you do not have a local guru or teacher of meditation or soul searching specialists, then a nice book or DVD on such subjects will do.

I also suggest wearing flowers, lots of flowers in your hair around your neck, and wearing loose fitting clothing, very liberating and pleasant;)


( Posted by: MohammadJesusBernstein [Member] On: March 12, 2009 )

Nice poem...from the conversation and commentary I get the idea that you are one who is willing to go on to the next sleeping (ignorant) person and try to rouse them, despite feeling sad and disappointed that the first one did not listed.

You could expand the poem on this theme, perhaps adding a few more lines. Just an idea.

Thank you for sharing!

Ultimately it is up to the individual to awaken:

"No one saves us but ourselves
No one can and no one may
We ourselves must walk the Path
But Buddhas clearly show the Way"

( Posted by: Eldros [Member] On: March 13, 2009 )

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