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Though they can’t explain or give reliance,
Even atheists understand “Divine.”
And miracles have been seen by science.
“Halleluiah!” they’d shout, but lack the spine.
Of course I believe in what I conceive
As Being greater than all existence!
But do I conceive of God? I believe
That would take an infinite persistence.
I want to praise God without somebody
Stepping in to tell me about their text
And making divine clarity muddy
With codes to follow, less their God be vexed.
We find sublime in our hearts not in church
Or ritual but private prayer and search.


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True style
is not a function of
financial circumstance.




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The following comments are for "ASECTUAL"
by poeteye

vexed God
Amen to that. That has always been my biggest pet peeve regarding organized religion. They don't know how to let people find their way to God. Have had a few discussions with Mormons and they usually walk away without me taking one of their pamphlets.

I ended the last poem I posted on lit by stating we should just believe in each other. I stand by that.

I enjoyed your poem. Not just for its contents but its qualities. Only thing that threw me off is the title. Sounds like asexual but I could be wrong. If not a play on that word, what does it mean?

( Posted by: desvelado [Member] On: March 7, 2008 )

I'm with Keats
a religion of beauty is good enough for Keats, its good enough for me...

amen again (said without the skighteszt trace of irony) to another succint, well-stated poem. keep ringing true. enjoyed.

( Posted by: AuldMiseryGuts [Member] On: March 8, 2008 )

poeteye" "Asectual"
Love neologisms as titles: they convince, indisputably, that the poem knows what it's talking about.

"We find sublime". Yes we do, infinitely and infinitesimally, except when we're clinically depressed, or "sub lame" as it were.

But I digress.

I've just got a small bone to pick with lines 5 and 6 here in that I read here that the "I" conceives of him/her self as God? or am I failing to understand something? Not clear.

This sonnet speaks to me. I'm always internalizing and externalizing concepts, precepts, and generally ideating, but I don't have your ability to verbalize it this formally and this well. God-given, your sonnet prowess, eh?

Thank you for the thinking that went in to this. And for the thinking that came out of it.

Lucie

( Posted by: windchime [Member] On: March 8, 2008 )

They, I, we
Well folks, the title was maybe a little too pun-ishing, since the poem has nothing to do with sex. I apologize and may repost with a new title.
Lucie, have you ever read "Stranger In A Strange Land"? Do you remember how the ersatz Martian shocked everyone by summarizing their dogma into the phrase: "Thou art God!"?
I believe I am a part of God. It's taken me years of meditative therapy to come to this, since in all the teachings handed to me God was something else ("Hairy Thunderer or Cosmic Muffin"). My current working definition of God is in line 6: "BEING greater than all existence. However, it does not convey a complete understanding of God. (How could it?)

( Posted by: poeteye [Member] On: March 8, 2008 )

ASECTUAL
Ok, I read your poem and then your comment, and I love your definition of God as "Being greater than all existence". Of course that would have to include us also so we certainly can't say "thou art God", can we? Even the whole of us.
I am one who believes in text. Not dogma but words, that He who created man to speak and to hear and understand, why wouldn't He use words?
But I believe also in what you say, not "ritual, but private prayer and search".
But have you ever given the Bible an honest private prayer and search? Not catholicism, nor Mormonism, nor any ism, just forget what we followers and believers have done to mess things up sometimes, and just ask God honestly in private prayer and prayer and search if this is His? Interesting well written poem. Robert.

( Posted by: robnjop [Member] On: March 8, 2008 )





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