Discourse with Desvelado (a friends' view)
by robnjop (Member) - published: November 15, 2007
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Roses cannot fit out themselves
Perfume and all
To court the bee

For where there is order
Behind is a mind
With will and purpose we cannot see

(my apologies for what really amounts to a repeat.
just wanted to legitimize it as poetry, simple though it is)

------
Robert J. Hall, thankful "Pa" of Kev and Dave.

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The following comments are for "Discourse with Desvelado (a friends' view)"
by robnjop

Robert's discourse
Hi Robert,
only have a few minutes. I don't think you should ever claim you are not a poet. I have never known anyone else to write something in response to something I posted. I haven't read all the comments because I have been busy lately but I did peak into the one you left on "Autonomous".

I will respond to that later but I wanted to let you know I liked your poem. It has a lilting quality to it that I find comforting.

I do believe in God but I have read one too many books on cosmology to not question what I was told to believe in growing up. Doubt is a human quality and serves a purpose. What that purpose is is entirely up to the doubter.

And, besides, I am biased against bees and wasps because 3 years ago I was attacked by a nest of yellowjacket wasps. As if my head weren't big enough, it swelled up even more.

( Posted by: desvelado [Member] On: November 15, 2007 )

desvelado
I worried all day at work today about this, it went something like this,

"first of all, who am I to use this guys' name in something I wrote? Maybe he didn't want me to use his name, no, I KNOW he didn't want me to use his name. And "discourse"? Isn't discourse just something one person does? Didn't I mean dialogue? What an idiot. Do bees even hang around roses? What is your problem Robert? Can't you just keep your mouth shut?"

Anyway, I do apologize for using your name without permission and would be more than happy to remove it. Don't know if the words I picked are right or not. Looking back at it now I sure don't like the "For" starting the second verse, not even sure that makes sense. (could use you now BWOz). I really do think though that those original words, "where there is order there is a mind, will and purpose behind it" are so true, and should shake any atheist to the core, ( you say you are not and I believe you). I mean show me once, just once in creation where it is not so, and if it true about man-made things, such as your poetry, how much more true for the butterfly, the eye, the atom. And one last thing, thank you for your kind comment, and please know it is all meant in kindness, begat by your own. Robert.

( Posted by: robnjop [Member] On: November 15, 2007 )

Discourse works for me
Don't worry so much - I was not offended. Takes a lot to offend me. In regards to poetry, the only thing that would bother me enough is someone telling me my poetry is not good because it does not meet their criteria. I believe in poetic license and individualism.

Anyway, this site is about learning from each other and sharing ideas. At least from my perspective. We don't have always have to agree on matters that have nothing to do with this site. I like what you have posted and respect your views.

( Posted by: desvelado [Member] On: November 15, 2007 )

discourse
Robert, you wrote a graceful and coherent poem, here... for myriad reasons, some intellectual [as in, appealing to the part of the brain that thinks, not a protestation of my superior thinking power], and some personal, I don't agree with the premise, but that’s okay… I like how you two talk to each other rather than at each other, and how this “discourse” inspired poetry… that’s a rare kind of consideration which is refreshing. thank you both.

( Posted by: AuldMiseryGuts [Member] On: November 16, 2007 )

Shannon
Thanks so much for your words here, the graciousness and acceptance I have found here is refreshing. Robert.

(And I hope some day if you would allow it, we may discuss "the premise", as you put it, or perhaps you will just accept the challenge and show me one example of order in this world that became of chaos and nothing more, yet more compelling than the virgin Mary on a grilled cheese sandwich. In friendship from another land, Robert.)

( Posted by: robnjop [Member] On: November 16, 2007 )

Random Robert
Hey, look who popped on the random reader!

Just wanted to comment to expose your words to those who might not have read them before. Hope you're well and look forward to reading you again whenever you're ready to return.

( Posted by: desvelado [Member] On: July 13, 2008 )

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