~*Evil Eye*~
by TheRealKarmaTseringLhamo (Member) - published: November 13, 2007
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silence speaks volumes
malignant envy exposed
threads filled to empty

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(Beautiful)
TIBETAN BUDDHIST SINGER,
Yangchen Lhamo,
singing "Happiness is"...

Blessings to all my dear friends on Lit.Org

NAMASTE~

~LIVE WELL AND BE HAPPY~

"Those who do not want to imitate anything, produce nothing." (Salvador Dali)
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The following comments are for "~*Evil Eye*~"
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GhostPoisonSturgeon...
Thanks for the earlier comment regarding how you think that Dali was a kick ass artist, and I appreciate you have taken the time to come to my post...

(the original post that I asked to be deleted, replaced with this new formatted one)

...anyway, as I said to you in the pm I sent last night; cool that you like Dali. You must have noticed the quote I have posted here by him. The art work here is by me, not Dali, and the haiku here is by me, not Dali. I would have liked a comment on my actual work instead of a comment referencing the Dali quote, but hell, at least you let me know that you were here, so that's cool, I guess;-)

Blessings~

( Posted by: TheRealKarmaTseringLhamo [Member] On: November 13, 2007 )

evil/ veil/ live
I like how you can make both “veil” and “live” out of evil… I like too, how the “evil” eye isn’t evil at all, but a symbol/ spell of protection… what’s in a name, hu? but then, I guess it’s the perception of “evil” and the misunderstanding of the symbol that lends it some of its power against those who would seek to destroy what they don’t understand…

often wondered from whence said protection came, from within or without? I think now that it’s probably both… something that happens when higher self, inner self and outer self unite with the rest of the cosmos… I’m not qualified to speak on the subject, just interested, and your poetry and art often open up channels for speculative style thinking…

anyway, the haiku, what I like about this is that the malign is on the way out, nothing remains malignant for long after its been “exposed”… “filled to empty” is also telling… how often is it that people blather without actually saying anything? so much hostility and negativity… but in emptiness there’s room for the seeds of creativity to take root…

the art is amazing, as always, thanks for providing so much scope in so few lines.

( Posted by: AuldMiseryGuts [Member] On: November 13, 2007 )

Evil eye
Rock on, Lena. Good to see haiku from you again.

Agree with what Shannon said, and also, love the Hamsa collection.

( Posted by: chinadoll [Member] On: November 13, 2007 )

Ancient Hamsa : Protection Against The Evil Eye, Shannon, Thanks!
Thanks Shannon, that was a wonderful insightful critique and I so appreciate it, more than you know for sure.

Yes, the Hamsa is actually a protective amulet against the evil eye...this symbol goes beyond the middle east cultures and use of the "hamsa amulet", it is actually a very universal symbol, the eye within the hand, and has been found in quite a few ancient cultures, including the American Indians of the midwest states, from their 'mounds' in Illinois. Fascinating subject.

And, about the Haiku, you got it perfectly. Many layers of possible interpretation and meaning and you did not miss a beat;-)

Blessings to you~

( Posted by: TheRealKarmaTseringLhamo [Member] On: November 13, 2007 )

"Maglinant Envy"...Thanks, Meghan...
Yes, Meghan, as I was telling, Shannon, the evil eye "Hamsa" protects against maglinant envy, and so sense I just finished my first "Hamsa" painting in my continuing series, I decided to write a haiku to complete the art. Thanks for your appreciation both here and on MySpace.com;-)

Blessings~

( Posted by: TheRealKarmaTseringLhamo [Member] On: November 13, 2007 )

Malignant....
duh, so many typos, so little time to fix them all...stupid me.

( Posted by: TheRealKarmaTseringLhamo [Member] On: November 13, 2007 )

Evil Eye
Lena

Water(silence speaks volumes)-Earth(malignant envy exposed)-Fire(threads filled to empty)

Your artwork coupled with the senryu tells a cosmic story that can fill a library.

Your artwork (the Hamsa collection) has me transfixed-it sucks you inward into the myriad universes each and everyone of us inhabit.

Your second piece is muted and subdued while one and three burst with color and vibrancy. While the opposite is true of lines one and three -they are calm and zen like while line two claws at your eyes with raw power.

A extremely balanced work - a masterpiece....

my warmest
bob

( Posted by: rcallaci [Moderator] On: November 13, 2007 )

Cursed
Your senryu seems to say an evil jealous person is putting the screws to you...My friend's mom uses the reverse Malocchio...middle and ring finger held down by the thumb with pointer finger and little finger pointed at the culprit ...shaking her hand at them while repeating a spitting sound ...phfft, phfft, phfft...It is said to return the curse to them...I don't mess with things like that and I certainly wouldn't poke fun at others beliefs...

The "malocchio" (The Italians pronounce it MA-LOOCH ) "evil eye" is the literal translation: "mal" = "bad" and "occhio" = "eye". It's believed to be caused by the bad thoughts of other people -- especially envy -- that can influence the lives of the person thought about, especially if that person is in a weak condition. Blue eyes are more likely to give you the malocchio. Maybe that's just an ethnic prejudice, since most Italians are brown eyed, and the introduction of genes for blue eyes always came from those nasty invaders from the north. ( My great grandfather was blonde with blue eyes, from Milan) It is said that you never know who it is that gives you the malocchio, though it is usually someone who is fairly close to you. However, they are often the last person you would suspect, because they always seem so nice to you!

There is something like this in Italian folk traditions, but it is called a "fatura", which means bewitchment. To make a fatura on someone, you go to a professional who specializes in casting fature. They put it together, and curse your enemy. You pay them, and everybody's happy -- except your enemy. Then your enemy goes to a professional who specializes in taking away fature. He pays, and hopefully it gets taken away.

My friend's mom takes away the malocchio, using a dish of water into which she drops olive oil from her finger. My friend has seen the oil snake around in the water as if spirited by an evil power Then it stops and will disperse .

Many Italians wear a horn (symbol) to counteract the malocchio ,,,some carry around a piece of amethyst. Or else three pieces of rock salt wrapped in aluminum foil.

I think my ex's wife gave me the malocchio which caused me to have a terrible Skin Lupus ...No medicine made by man could heal me ...It took the hand of God ...Kacee

( Posted by: nitz kitty [Member] On: November 13, 2007 )

Mal Occhio/Evil Eye....
Kacee,

Thanks for expanding on this...yes, the evil eye is something believed in by many cultures, in Europe, the Italians, Portuguese, Spanish, etc., in the Middle East it is widely believed. The blue eye thing is interesting because also in the Portuguese they believe that green/or blue brings evil eye, and they don't have many blue eyed people either, unless they are mixed with the invaders from the north as you have already stated. My mother believed in the evil eye, in Portuguese it is called "mau olhado" same thing, means, bad gaze, bad look---fascinating how so many cultures share this belief in such common ways, don't you think?

I believe that it is indeed a principle of magick, by mirroring back or sending back the evil that has been projected by the evil eye..like holding up a mirror to the eye, what does it see but itself! That principle is often used in "prop" magick. I don't think it is dangerous as some "prop" magick can be, because you are only sending back that person's own energies, nothing that you have created or conjured yourself...only what they have created and wished upon you now like "karma" returns to them instead.

And, yeah, your grandfather was right, often times, (my mother was convinced that one of my best girlfriends I had in my 20's had the evil eye)...the person who most would least suspect because they "seem" so nice, may be the culprit, but the reason may also be because it does not always come from a conscious level, sometimes it is deeper, subconscious/unconscious, and the person may not really know that they feel this destructive envy towards you, yet it is just as harmful as if done deliberately.

I have just been inspired by middle eastern things lately, tribal fusion belly-dance, hamsa, henna body designs, etc.---I am on a art "theme" of sorts lead by a very powerful muse from within.

Blessings, and thanks for reading and leaving me such a great detailed comment. I love it when someone shares their own experiences and knowledge on subjects like this:-)

( Posted by: TheRealKarmaTseringLhamo [Member] On: November 13, 2007 )

Thanks, RCallaci....
Wow, a 10, Woo-Hoo! That was one awesomely cool and VERY insightful critique and review! Thank you so much, Bob!

( Posted by: TheRealKarmaTseringLhamo [Member] On: November 13, 2007 )

sorry
for not commenting earlier on your haiku... i was actually very tired and drunk myself (yes, on a monday night...why not?) I do dig it, though, seriously. I've been in rare positions where, when asking a question (to an at the time close friend), all that was recieved as an answer was a menacing vibration in the atmosphere and silence... Sometimes silence lets you know exactly the other person's position on something, especially on a potentially tender subject. As far as the 'evil eye' goes, can't say i'm familiar with that, as religion goes anyway (although, my own eyes are blue and supposively hypnotic or persuasive, at least from what some girls have told me; shit, am i fucking evil?!)... But then again, im young and have much to learn; maybe i'll research that now. Thanks for posting, sorry about earlier, though dali still remains my favorite artist of all time.

( Posted by: ghostpoisonsturgeon [Member] On: November 13, 2007 )

oh yea, and about the art
what inspired what, the art the poem or vise versa.... or neither?

( Posted by: ghostpoisonsturgeon [Member] On: November 13, 2007 )

Eye Eye
Hi Hi

I see a three fingered hand with an eye in the middle.... I know I am probably missing the point.
I quite liked the old kaleidoscope’s we had as children … say 50 years ago… the other good visual effects were the bright flashing lights I used to get with migraine headaches (as a kid) often brought on by motion sickness….. I learned to control both …. Well to some extent now and again the odd one would sneak up and bite me on the bum……fortunately very very rarely these days.
Life of course is all about sex and proliferation. I know your art work is good and will get terrific approval….I like to think of it as the “Hippy Days” with all the psychedelic stuff meant to represent being “Spaced Out”
Personally I missed out on all that “Free Love” stuff. The Army machine had got me dressed in Khaki doing all sorts of character building stuff… That just meant you exhausted yourself..Got wet cold muddy angry slept then did the same again… seemed a good idea at the time being turned into a killing machine and a tradesman…you even got to enjoy it.
I still think Haiku is for lazy people who cant be bothered to tell me a whole story and want me to make most of it up myself…. On the other hand I hate reading through that long drawn out stuff where you are more confused at the end than you were three sentences down….

Eric xxx

( Posted by: Fairplay [Member] On: November 14, 2007 )

~Eric For President 2008~
Oh, I forgot, your English, you wouldn't qualify for a US president run, but hey, even though you are one hell of lousy politician, the worst politician I have ever seen, really....
I'd vote for you. Why? Because you say whatever is on your mind, even when you don't have a clue what is going on or what your talking about, but at least you are honest and straight forward without the least bit of self-censoring civilities.

Thanks for reading my post, Eric, even if you do think that my art and my haiku are nothing more than a bunch of "lazy" "hippie stuff".

Blessings:-)

( Posted by: TheRealKarmaTseringLhamo [Member] On: November 14, 2007 )

Heritage
Huh

I thought America was one of our colonies... when did we let them loose with self rule? They all seem to be able to trace their roots back to Europe....

Managed to get through a great deal of my life not knowing what I was talking about... but then it didn't realy matter because I was in charge half the time...

You are right though.... I expect I did say Lazy... but I didnt mean it as an insult or anything like that....Remember we all naturally take the easy way out if given the chance...

As for Hippie... I quite liked the idea, unfortunately I didnt have the twenty quid needed to buy oneself out of the Army in those days...compared to what we were doing it seemed a nice way to spend your time....

Eric xxx

( Posted by: Fairplay [Member] On: November 14, 2007 )

Haiku/Art/War/Hippies/Heritage, Eric....
About the war...
...pick one, is it Vietnam you are talking about concerning those "hippies"?...well, I was still under 18 throughout most of that war, and by the time I was old enough to enjoy the hippie thing, it was already over! In fact, when the famous Woodstock Festival took place, I was but a freshman in high school...but I got lucky since there were pockets of "hippie culture" still in existence in northern California where I grew up, in Santa Cruz and Berkeley. Lucky me missing all that war stuff and getting to hang out at school and thinking about peace and painting pretty pictures and such, eh?

Heritage...

...I don't just trace my roots back to Europe, I was born there, so I have very little problem figuring out where I come from. My parents were married to each other, so I guess I don't fit the "bastard hat" that you spoke of in my other thread concerning my grandmother's experience in European Azores.

This senryu/haiku...

...actually took me quite some time to construct to bring it into the 5 7 5 format, and it is not for the lazy, it is really quite a discipline to play around with a limited amount of space and try to fit it all together within such structure limits, etc.

The art...
...has nothing to do with hippies or psychedelics...in fact, the "hamsa" and the stylization of hamsas, their color, etc., goes back thousands of years in various world cultures.

Anyway, no insult taken, if none was meant. Blessings to you, Eric;-)

( Posted by: TheRealKarmaTseringLhamo [Member] On: November 14, 2007 )

Evil Eye....
Well. I liked your art, but wonder if you would have to have one of them tattood on your head to be effective. Haiku, to my pain, I know is difficult to give birth to. Most of my poetry comes easy, not Haiku it is like turning a meaning into the nearest thing words can come to thought.

Nearest difficulty I can relate it to is direct communication with those on the higher planes where 'astral' thought has to be interpreted!

I can see the Hippy connection inside your art and consider Eric's refrence to this a compliment to the sphere of awarenenss these must have been produced on.

As for the Evil Eye, your comment:

" That principle is often used in "prop" magick. I don't think it is dangerous as some "prop" magick can be, because you are only sending back that person's own energies, nothing that you have created or conjured yourself...only what they have created and wished upon you now like "karma" returns to them instead."

From experience I cannot quite agree with this. Yes it is 'caused' by the evil intent of the perpetrator, but as somebody said they may not even be aware of this. Even if they are, you still have to consider the consequences of reflecting this evil as it does go back ten fold!

I have seen people end up in hospital as a result of this and have avoided reflecting when I thought more physical intervention was more appropriate. However, when somebody effectively closes all you pathways by intent, they certainly deserve their just rewards. I am just trying to say be aware of what your defensive actions may result in!

Details of effective 'Methods of Protection' require a stamped, self addressed enveloppe enclosing a gratuity in line with the severity of the attack... posted tp the Motherland, care of 'English Army Bastard Brat...'

( Posted by: ivordavies [Member] On: November 14, 2007 )

Age Concern
Hi Lena

Then you must nearly be as young as me...I had the pleasure of flying round in little helicpters at the time of Woodstock... in a rather more sinister location/situation/Roll in N Ireland

Just a thought… they would have to name a similar (Hippies) group "cockies and fannies" now. The name was taken from the cut of the jeans they wore, or by all accounts didn’t wear.

Always considered the possibility of being roped into Vietnam…at that time the British Government kept us more or less “Out of It” Eventually of course the situation was untenable for even the mighty USA….

I had been in jungle locations from the age of twelve…heard a bit about jungle warfare in the Malay confrontation with terrorists….. I think you will find Britain (and Malaya) actually won that one….I am not sure but it may have been one of the very few terrorist struggles that has ever been won…. Then Borneo of course… though I wasn’t quite old enough(I was at school) I knew some jungle warfare methods from groups of soldier training near our school we shadowed in the Jungle as kids ..ones that hadn’t got a chance of working in Nam… Had two brother in laws in Malaya one involved in Borneo (I think) and another who would become my brother in law years later a member of the SAS.

Hey what a war Nam was… thought the American Government would have seen the light after that (and everyone else thinking of starting a war) It all seems such a waste now.

Wonder how long it will be till the world degenerates into bedlam… It would be so nice if everyone would just create pictures and poetry and we could all be friends… We could sack the government….

Whoops maybe then witchcraft spooks and Goblins may take over… I think we have put paid to the theory of Jesus or God due to all the biblical descrepancies..

Eric

PS Of course there was no malice intended… just throwing a few items in for interest… writing can be so hard to understand sometimes…

( Posted by: Fairplay [Member] On: November 14, 2007 )

Ivor, about Magick/Protection/Amulets & Tibet.
Ivor,

Thank you so much for reading and your comments.

No, you don't wear these on your forehead unless you want to make some jewelry in this image;-) There is an awful LOT of jewelry already out there, necklaces especially, that use this symbol as a protective amulet, hamsa symbols in jewelry have been around for thousands of years. And there are literally hundreds, maybe even thousands of personally "stylized" hamsas out there...also used in paintings, like mine.

About magick and protection- In my current meditations sometimes I use visualizations in the same way as if I were wearing an actual physical piece of jewelry, but really, I don't rely on props or amulets much for personal protection, what I practice these days far transcends my earlier experiences with magick, which I no longer practice on a physical level.

Hahaha! "c/o English Army brat" eh? I don't think I will be needing any advice on the details of effective protection methods , because I've already had a lot of whole life experience and some pretty good teachers, my last teacher was from a long tradition in Tibet, a lama rinpoche (incarnate lama) of the Kagyu Lineage to be exact.

Tibetan Buddhism is not like other forms of Buddhism, it is very powerful stuff, and yet quite harmonious. Tibetan Buddhism incorporates a lot of magical principles, and various beliefs in demons, earth spirits, etc., picked up from the indigenous religions of Tibet prior to the appearance of Yogi Milarepa and the introduction of Buddhism from India...

...but thank you for all your wonderful compliments. Much appreciated.

Blessings;-)

( Posted by: TheRealKarmaTseringLhamo [Member] On: November 14, 2007 )

Eric;-) give a big hippie hug all around....
Peace, like it's totally cool, man. No worries. Ok, dude, it's all good. I'm like totally with you, I feel you, man. Peace, Love, Happiness for all;-)

( Posted by: TheRealKarmaTseringLhamo [Member] On: November 14, 2007 )

Lena's evil ojo
The last line reminds me of my most recent post:
"My pockets are full and
Almost empty"

It's strange commenting on something after so much has already been written about it. I didn't read much of the comments because I want to believe what I share is coming from me.

Anyway, liked it but why wouldn't I? Not only is your haiku concise but I get to enjoy the paintings you paired it with. The poem and the art work as separate offerings but together they are magic.

( Posted by: desvelado [Member] On: November 15, 2007 )

Francisco, Thank You;-)
That was very kind of you to say. I appreciate it. Blessings to you and yours. Hope your mom is doing better.

( Posted by: TheRealKarmaTseringLhamo [Member] On: November 15, 2007 )

Ivor, please tell?
'Details of effective 'Methods of Protection' require a stamped, self addressed envelope enclosing a gratuity in line with the severity of the attack... posted tp the Motherland, care of 'English Army Bastard Brat...'

Posted by: ivordavi

That address you left won't really work?;-) (I know you were kidding) but in all seriousness, I am curious what your take on "effective" is in your experience? I'm sorry if I came across as a know it all-it is one of my smart Alec character flaws.

Please do tell me about "effective methods of protection" ...are they much different from what I have already stated regarding Tibetan visualization techniques in mediation that my lama taught me? Are you familiar with those techniques? I have a feeling they are similar in principle, but then again, maybe not, maybe you know something more?

( Posted by: TheRealKarmaTseringLhamo [Member] On: November 16, 2007 )

ha...
typos! ARGGG!!!

( Posted by: TheRealKarmaTseringLhamo [Member] On: November 16, 2007 )

evil eye
I love how this evokes for me an image of both desert sand and zen garden combed sand, and how the haiku itself exists within the very nature of both sands. God, Lena! This is good! And your art is, wow! Compelling. I like the second line in the haiku, which is applicable as much to the evil eye "eer" as the evil eye "receiver".

Lucie

( Posted by: windchime [Member] On: November 24, 2007 )

"Evil Eye", Lucie, thank you very much...and it's
good to have you back, Lucie...hope the break was a refreshing one for you. Thank you very much for your generous critique. Blessings~

( Posted by: TheRealKarmaTseringLhamo [Member] On: November 24, 2007 )

~*Evil Eye*~ PS., Lucie;-)
Please come check out my hamsa paintings at myspace.com profile pic pages, I also have them on slideshow on front page. I would love your critique on my other art work. Thanks again, Lucie!

www.myspace.com/msjanemsjane

( Posted by: TheRealKarmaTseringLhamo [Member] On: November 24, 2007 )

Sure, okay
Thanks for the invite.

Lucie

( Posted by: windchime [Member] On: November 24, 2007 )

release the soul
an evil eye has no window to release the soul

( Posted by: Zeus [Member] On: December 2, 2007 )

Thank you, Zeus, re: Evil Eye
Evil Eye is a middle eastern belief that spans thousands of years, and apparently the belief also shows up in other parts of the world, including American Indian culture and Central and South American cultures. The Evil Eye as seen here in my paintings are actually a amulet to protect against its power to harm.

I think I know what you mean though about the need to have a window to release the soul...but I am not sure, so could you expand on what you mean, please?

Also, I saw your myspace profile and I see you are from Australia, and I thought the pics were great. As I told our Lit.Org onboard psychic, known as "IvorDavies", I was once told by a couple of psychics that one of my past lives was as a Roman soldier, but I want to add here that they also told me that in another life I was an Australian Aborigine person, most likely a male, for I used to have dreams of it, and I left you a comment about it all on your myspace.com pics pages. The whole Aboriginal belief in the reality of the dream time world as the true reality has always been a fascinating subject to me Anyway, again so glad to have you here to comment and give imput. Blessings to you~

( Posted by: TheRealKarmaTseringLhamo [Member] On: December 2, 2007 )

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