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Ok , lit family...let's have another go at a thread( since the other one has petered out)...This is a pretty wide thread from dealing (living in a haunted house) with ghosts to inheriting psychic abilities from family members...I'll start...Kacee

I went to stay with my one aunt while my mom was having a baby...I don't remember if the thing started happening when I was 8 or 10...but I could tell what my aunt was thinking or what she was going to tell me to do before she would tell me...then I would say she already told me that and she would say no she didn't...It was confusing but didn't bother me to the point that I told someone...my little secret...then I had an out of body experience when I was about 10...I was floating above myself , thinking , "Am I dead dreaming I'm alive or alive dreaming I'm dead." Another secret... When I was 15 I had this terrible feeling one night after my boyfriend left and so I rushed into my bedroom and knelt at the bed and prayed for God to please keep my boyfriend safe...the next day the boy called me and the first words out of his mouth were," I'm ok." Then he told me of the terrible accident he had been in ...he flipped the car and he got thrown into the back seat and they had to use the jaws of life to get him out...and he only had a few bumps and bruises...shh secret...

I lived in a house with a ghost for 5 years and had some experiences...then I went to a haunted house with a friend and a ghost ran through my body...It felt like dry ice...Brrrr...I never went back...

I even had a dream about where a dead woman was (police hadn't found her ) and how she died...turned out I was right...People asked me why I didn't tell the police...Here's why...I saw a show on tv once where a lady and her daughter found the body of a missing woman through psychic abilities and the police arrested her for murder...NO THANKS!!!

I heard that kind of stuff runs in families...I never asked for it ...nor did I want it...I tried to figure out for years who the heck I inherited it from ...both my grandmas died before I became a teenager...So I really didn't get to know them all that well...I was too busy doing kid things...Then it hit me...My dad's mom used to read tea leaves ...I always thought it was a joke...MAYBE NOT... after my divorce I got into things (occult) pretty heavy...but when I turned back to God...I didn't need that stuff and asked God to take it away...I haven't had experiences in years and I don't ever want them back...The Bible says not to play around with that stuff...so I don't...(That's just what I choose for myself...I don't judge others.) This one should be fun...I hope Ivor chimes in...Kacee

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Kacee Huggs


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The following comments are for "Secret Inheritance Thread"
by nitz kitty

Loaded Inheritance Thread.....
Kacee...I need a few cups of coffee to get my brain started here. Good subject. For me, this is a huge subject and I don't take it lightly. For years I rarely shared my personal experiences to anyone outside of the researcher loop...but recently I have been more open about it, and some of the old Lit.Org membership has already heard some of it, but there is a lot more, so let me give it some thought, as to what I feel comfortable revealing, and I'll be back.

( Posted by: TheRealKarmaTseringLhamo [Member] On: October 10, 2007 )

Inheritance
cool thread idea, Kacee, and seasonal too, since Samhain will shortly be upon us... have to have a think about this one, but enjoying the responses so far... hope more join up soon and share their secrets.

( Posted by: AuldMiseryGuts [Member] On: October 10, 2007 )

Samhain! Shannon! Oh, boy!
Shannon,
Yes, and we ex-witches still celebrate it, my favorite holiday in the entire year...the only one rich with good memories of fun times with friends and fellow coven members...

Kaceee, I'm still thinking.

( Posted by: TheRealKarmaTseringLhamo [Member] On: October 10, 2007 )

Psychic BOMB blah blah blast...here it goes, Kacee!
Kacee,

You know I have thought about this, and I realized there is no way I can keep this short or simple, the whole are of psychic phenomena, experiences, etc, is just too big a subject, and too much a part of my whole life.

Bear with me here...

As I've said before, I've been involved throughout my life in actual paranormal research as a case study, and also in various other capacities. I've been on the "scientific research" end of this. I have old friends who have been pioneers in the field of some paranormal research and near-death studies, and I have a couple of friends who have had their share of notoriety as a result of their books on the subjects of paranormal/out of this world kind of stuff.

One of the things I have had to deal with my whole life, (and I found out I am not alone) is dealing with the smug ridicule that the so-called logical thinkers throw at you....used to upset me when I was a kid and later as an adult, but then I realized that it didn't really matter. People are going to believe what they will based on what information they have, and frankly, most have little or no real information to work with. I realized that I knew a hell of a lot more about paranormal research and phenomena than your average Joe or Jane. Those who think they are being logical and blow-off all or most paranormal phenomena as being a result of brain tumors, imagination, hallucinations, mistaken perceptions, etc., are mostly a bunch of ignorant closed minded, often times fearful folk, not the skeptics they seem to think they are. A real skeptic doesn't close off possibilities, any possibilities, nor make judgements based on their own limited information and experience.

I consider myself a huge skeptic. I tend to always look for every possible explanation available before jumping to conclusions, and when all else has been ruled out, then I am open to the other possibilities.

Right now I am of the belief that science is about to really catch up to what many of us who've had personal experience with psychic phenomena have known all along. I believe that the theorists of quantum science, and particularly, M-theory theorists are on the verge of something big...problem with M-theory is that you are dealing with the concept of parallel universes, multiple dimensions, and other things that cannot be brought into the normal scientific laboratory, replicated, etc.--So it may be awhile, but I believe the M-theory is the newest doorway to a more comprehensive, scientific truth, (spiritual truth too) of what the true nature of reality, and our physical universe is about.

That being said...

What have I inherited?

1.)Many experiences as a child in out-of-body experience, and also as an adult. As a child I used to think that my out-of-body experiences were my walking dreams, then later I realized it was something all together different.

2.) Multiple encounters throughout my life with "ghosts", and or so-called poltergeist phenomena.

3.) A couple of encounters with alien type beings, and yes, alien abduction, no anal probe, but I did have a long needle jabbed through the area next to my eye leading into the brain.

4.) I have had a truck load of psychic premonitions, dreams, and involuntary medium experiences throughout my life. And I have been involved in a couple of exorcisms of negative energies from those who were experiencing negative psychic phenomena in their homes, yes, ala' "Ghost Hunters" kind of thing, but a very long time ago.

5.) I once practiced the religion of Wicca, as a coven witch and as a solitary witch. I practiced a form of 'prop-magic', and I found that magic, and certain concepts involved in magic are quite real, along the realms of M-theory, and the concept of creating thought-forms, and changes in this physical reality.

Through an initial referral from Whitley Strieber, (author of several best selling books)I have been involved not only in research in this field as a case study for Ken Ring, PhD, University of Connecticut near-death studies/extraordinary experiences, but I have also been a study subject for the private files of MUFON L.A., and former director, Don Waldrop, who extensively documented my experiences.

As to your comment Kacee, that you believe that psychic gifts are handed down via inheritance in families...I agree. My parents were both very psychic people, but both of them blew it off and settled for rational explanation no matter how flimsy. They were both very uncomfortable with psychic phenomena, I think it scared them and they were trying to protect me by taking a position of either totally ignoring or blowing it all off to imagination, etc.

The real hardcore psychic in my family was a great-aunt of mine (my mother's side) who was well known throughout the Azores Islands during her time, she was called Maria de Carmo. She had the ability to speak to the dead, she performed exorcisms, and she was a medium. My parents kept her existence secret from me my whole life, it was only in this past year that I learned of her and her exceptionally creepers filled life story.

I have many personal beliefs that I keep to myself regarding psychic phenomena and such. Most of which may seem somewhat negative, but it is my personal conclusion. I believe that there are forces, beings of other dimensions, who have never been human, who are not ghosts of human souls, but who are rather, negative energies. Some religions would consider them and call them demons. I think that it is dangerous for those who experiment with psychic play, such as using Ouija boards, home seances', etc., and that those who do not know what they are dealing with, and who think it is all just hokus pokus fun and games should stear clear and beware that they may encounter more than they expected and that it may impact their lives in ways they never wished. I am not a fear-ist, just an experiencer, and I give this advice from my own practical experience.

I believe that one can create positive, creative energies through meditation, prayer and other spiritual pathways. I believe that everything we do in this world matters, no matter how seemingly harmless and small the act, and that we are more than just our physical bodies. Currently, I practice positive spiritual pathways, and my interest in the paranormal is primarily focused on exploration of M-theory, only. I believe that many things that are currently labeled as separate paranormal phenomena, are in fact "the same phenomena" in different form.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!

Blessings!

( Posted by: TheRealKarmaTseringLhamo [Member] On: October 11, 2007 )

The Thread
Thanks everyone for helping me with my thread...Kacee

Lucie,
Thanks for telling about your friend George...My hands tingle and vibrate when I lay them on someone as God USES me for His purpose of healing...Thanks for your comment...I too believe in angels and entities ...I'm not afraid of them but learned not to mess with them (Ghosts) They do get a little testy..

desvelado,
Thank you for your comments...I like the ones about the weird feelings and unsolicited advice the best...I believe that was your father waving to you...

Shannon,
Halloween never entered my mind when I wrote this ...Just came to me ...Thanks for your comment...

Lena,
That is why I never told any one about my experiences ...I thought I could trust my ex and he acted as if he believed but he was a scoffer...He would make fun of me at work to his buddies...

1.)Many experiences as a child in out-of-body experience, and also as an adult. As a child I used to think that my out-of-body experiences were my walking dreams, then later I realized it was something all together different.

(I had several out of body experiences as an adult and even the one I had as a child ...my spirit would always hover around my body...I think I was afraid to let go because I thought it might not come back...)

2.) Multiple encounters throughout my life with "ghosts", and or so-called poltergeist phenomena.

( I only had experiences with two ghosts...one I lived with for 5 years.....man's voice calling my name...child's voice calling mom...and a few jokes were played on me...Then that one I made angry at a haunted house ...the one who ran through my body...I never did that again...)

3.) A couple of encounters with alien type beings, and yes, alien abduction, no anal probe, but I did have a long needle jabbed through the area next to my eye leading into the brain.

(I never had any encounters with aliens but while in Florida visiting my friend , we saw two saucer shaped flying objects flashing their lights at one another...then the smaller of the two sat on top of the other and they both hovered over the median strip on I-95...we started driving away then decided to go back at the same time they started moving closer to us...we stopped on the side of a road to take a closer look...and I do mean closer...They hovered just above the trees (as big as a three story house...They made no sound and not a leaf on the trees moved...then they moved over to hover over us (the smaller one on top of the larger again...) That's when I started screaming for my friend to get the heck outa there...We did and when we got to her place she called a friend who was retired from the Airforce ...he and his son research this kind of stuff....we were interviewed separately then told we weren't the only ones who had seen this...So I didn't feel too crazy after that...

4.) I have had a truck load of psychic premonitions, dreams, and involuntary medium experiences throughout my life. And I have been involved in a couple of exorcisms of negative energies from those who were experiencing negative psychic phenomena in their homes, yes, ala' "Ghost Hunters" kind of thing, but a very long time ago.

(Never did this...)

5.) I once practiced the religion of Wicca, as a coven witch and as a solitary witch. I practiced a form of 'prop-magic', and I found that magic, and certain concepts involved in magic are quite real, along the realms of M-theory, and the concept of creating thought-forms, and changes in this physical reality.

(I have no doubt that it is real ...it is scary and I chose not to go there...)

I think that it is dangerous for those who experiment with psychic play, such as using Ouija boards, home seances', etc., and that those who do not know what they are dealing with, and who think it is all just hokus pokus fun and games should stear clear and beware that they may encounter more than they expected and that it may impact their lives in ways they never wished. I am not a fear-ist, just an experiencer, and I give this advice from my own practical experience.

(I believe there are what are called demons also...and that when you play those hokus pokus games you may be opening yourself up to them...That's why I'm staying out of the whole thing)

I just want to ask if anyone ever had the same experience I had with stones...I went to a Science Store in a mall ...They had jars of polished stones ...I was fascinated and picked out the ones that called to me...You've heard people say, " That thing had my name on it." I took 5 beautiful stones home with me that day...
At the same time my ex and I were taking a beading class from a Cherokee man...we were in time asked to join their group...My ex left and I remained...One night they were doing visualizations ...I closed my eyes and started to meditate when I felt hands on my shoulders ...Then I felt someone's breath on my face as a young man's voice said ," I love you, mom." With my eyes still closed I rubbed my cheek on his hand...tears pouring from my eyes...My one native friend came up to me and gave me a stone to hold...she said it would ground me...(whatever that is)
Then she said she could tell I had an experience ...I didn't understand any of it...I lost a baby years ago ...she explained that he was in a different dimension and they grow up there...I just let it go at that...Here's where it gets interesting...I started holding the stones I had bought when I meditated ...and they started vibrating in my hands... traveled up my arms and all through my body...Wow that was some experience !!

I bought this Native American book and in it they say to call upon your native spirit guide...well, I put my meditation tape in and my headphones on...and laid down to hear from my spirit guide...All of a sudden...a loud booming voice blasted in my ears...JA-NOOK-A-WEE...I ripped those headphones off my head...Thinking I'm going to be deaf...I knew there was no such thing on my tape because it was a rippling water tape and I had listened to it many times...THAT WAS IT FOR ME...I WAS DONE!!
Kacee

( Posted by: nitz kitty [Member] On: October 13, 2007 )

Eric's Inheritance
Thanks Eric ...for your input...It was very interesting...Kacee

( Posted by: nitz kitty [Member] On: October 15, 2007 )

Kacee!!! The Thread (Beware!).....
Kacee,

Thanks so much for replying specifically to each of my examples that I left here. I appreciated that you did that. I know what you are talking about concerning the stones, and I will just tell you that as with any time of "prop" or medium, be careful. And, yep, whether Indian Guide or whatever it is called, you never really know what is presenting itself to you, and what is behind its illusion. There is so much of that in dealing with this realm. As I have said before it is not hokus pokus fun and games, and unfortunately so many get wrapped up in it and lose their way, but obviously, you have have the discernment to know when to stop and back away.

That brings me to Francisco's experience with the worry dolls, again, prop magic, medium which opens portals to those other dimensions that are quite real...and sometimes quite dangerous for those that are not prepared for what they may encounter.

Blessings!

( Posted by: TheRealKarmaTseringLhamo [Member] On: October 15, 2007 )

Francisco.....
True in most cases, and in many ways. We as spiritual beings ourselves do have so much more power than we sometimes know, but the danger lies in the common held misperception that somehow belief is required for certain things to be, or to be able to harm us, which is not the case at all..some things "are" with or without anyones personal belief...and unfortuneately some things can hurt you in the process, especially if you do not recognize the danger. Fortunately in your case, you did recognize it.

For the record, never burn prop magic/medium objects. Ouija booards (as Kacee mentioned here, especially! or the worry dolls you menitoned)...for some unknown reason, burning only releases the energies to do further harm. It is always best to bury things like this. Bury them in dirt. Make sure they are never unearthed.

I am not lecturing here, please don't get me wrong, or take this wrong, OK. Just passing on some helpful hints. And, I didn't just pull this stuff out of my ass, for this advice seems to be universal in its experience, much written about it or handed down verbally by various human cultures/religions, and those with direct personal experience.

( Posted by: TheRealKarmaTseringLhamo [Member] On: October 15, 2007 )

BOO!!!!!!!!!!
Ive enjoyed reading this thread havent wanted to comment till now...but now i do so im gonna comment right now....I used to be shit-scared of ghosts and visitors and all such creatures of the gloaming hours...ive laid in bed paralyzed many a time as ive been hit and tickled and laughed at by these jealous wisps of past and future...it no longer bothers me...i just accept the fact that they r real and they r there and at any given time I might be taking a shower with Abe Lincoln or my great-great-great-grandmother..."the trillions" i call them...make them ur friends is my advice..an occasional coversation or a wink and a smile can save a whole lotta scary middle of the night shiite...

( Posted by: kilgoretrout [Member] On: October 15, 2007 )

Scary thread
desvelado,
Those kinds of stores scare me...That really is a frightening story...Good thing you were smart enough not to go through with what they told you to do...killing yourself is never the answer (NEVER FOLLOW DESTRUCTIVE INSTRUCTIONS)
I remember seeing something about the occult on tv... it did mention not to burn the items...When my friend burned the Ouija board... this was many years before I met her...she did hear more than one voice screaming ...I hope I didn't do any harm to people ...because I gave several things away to people who asked for them...Tarot cards and that native american book that had a set of cards in it too...I also gave my stones away to a young rock collector ...I never told her the story ...when I bought them ...it was because they were beautiful...2 rose quartz (my birthday stone, rose is my birth month flower...and I live on a street named Rose) ameythest, tiger's eye, red jasper...

Lena,

No more props for me I even sold my meditation tapes on ebay...They were just relaxation tapes...I'm glad I got out while the getting was good...

I'm glad you could give us some expert information...a lot of people don't know these things and can get pulled into the darkness if they play with fire...

Thanks for your experiences ...Kacee

desvelado wrote,
"Thanks to you, Kacee, for providing this forum. It's been fun and enlightening."

Maybe this will help those who think these are parlor games ...they are not...this is scary stuff ...It is in everyone's best interest to stay away from them...Kacee

kigoretrout,

Don't mess with entities ...they are not like Casper the friendly ghost...some can get quite nasty...Kacee

( Posted by: nitz kitty [Member] On: October 16, 2007 )

Beyond the Grave
Hi Kacee-
This is the first time in weeks that I have had computer access to Lit. For some reason, the screen here has been coming up grey, although I have been able to access other sites. Go figure.
This was the first place I happened to stop in, and I have something to share.

My brother died, quite unexpectedly, when I was almost 16. He was a month away from 20. He had Hodgkin's disease, but back in 1972 it was quite unusual to find such a thing and the doctors didn't know what to do, until one finally took an x-ray, and immediately put him in exploratory surgery. He died on the table. They found a football-sized tumor in his chest.

The night he died, he came to me and I vividly remember waking up and finding him standing next to my bed. He told me that he had come to me because he knew that I would understand why he was there and what he had to say. He told me that he was okay, that my dog was okay (she, at 16, had died 4 months earlier, in my arms-)
He told me to look out for my parents, and let them know it would be alright and that he was in no pain.
He was dressed in the most ordinary of clothes that I was used to seeing him in- his mechanics clothes from the service station he worked in- not the hospital garb he died in, nor the suit he was buried in...
I asked him why he was there, with me, and he said that I was the one who would most understand.

For many years after he died I had "visits" from him, in the form of dreams, but they were more than dreams, and I was always aware that they were. I would wake from these, and feel as if I'd had a "visit".
During the course of the 'dream', I was aware that I was talking to my dead brother, and upon waking I would remember, with equisite detail, all the bits and pieces of our time together and every part of the conversations we shared.

This went on for over twenty years, although sporadically. Still, always with my awareness that it was a different experience than a dream. I was able to confer with him on many of the situations that would have been something that I would have liked to have shared with my brother in life- my marraige, the birth of my children, my confusion as to whether I should divorce, etc.-
It was very, very important to me that I was able to have my older brother's opinion as to whether I was proceeding in the right way, and to share with him such important aspects of me life.
Finally, around 1994- some 22 years after his death- he came to me one last time in one of these 'dreams' and told me that it would be his last "visit", that it was time for him "to go on"- but that he loved me and would always be a part of my heart.
Kacee, I have never again had another dream like that from him, although occassionally, he has turned up as a part of a dream. Still, those dreams since then have been infrequent, but more importantly, a "normal" kind of dream, not a "visit".
How blessed I feel for having had my brother for so much longer than his "earthly" years, and I can't begin to relate how much this experience has bolstered my absolute belief in the truth I know to be- that life goes on beyond death, and that love goes on beyond the grave.
That he said it was time to "go on"? -To another level of reality, or back for another incarnation, I don't know. I do know that all the years of my experience with my brother's visits were real and taught me, beyond any doubt, that love surpasses physical death, and that I am a very lucky person to have had such an intimate knowledge of life and death and life. And a brother who loved me- beyond death-

Thank you for helping me to remember something so wonderful and meaningful.
- XO- Elizabeth

( Posted by: emaks [Member] On: October 16, 2007 )

Secret Thread
Elizabeth,
Thank you so much for sharing your visitation. Love does continue beyond the grave...Spirits will stay with us if they feel they are needed but they too must go on to their own realm...I really loved your comment...thanks again...Kacee

( Posted by: nitz kitty [Member] On: October 17, 2007 )

Pen's Spiritual visit
Pen,
Thank you for your delightfully spiritual story...The spirits visit us in a number of ways...each has his/her own special sign ...in your case the Hibiscus ...Thanks again..Kacee

( Posted by: Nitz Kitty [Member] On: October 22, 2007 )

Wind in the Chime
Dear Windchime,
Why do you think you are not "chosen"? You're here after all. I don't think anyone is without spiritual powers. I think that the reason that it seems to run in families, is that often such things are discussed primarily within the family group. Perhaps your dissention stems from the fact that you take the paranormal for normal. Maybe you're just too modest -- ask your dead-with-us's or your hot-handed friend what they think about your spiritual presence.
-- Jim

( Posted by: poeteye [Member] On: October 25, 2007 )





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