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According to some very recent news on Yahoo!, former Republican Vice President Dan Quayle (who served under GW Bush during his one-term presidency) walked out of a John 'Cougar' Mellencamp concert because Mellencamp made some mild criticism of the current Bush administration:;_ylt=AgipCh0GzUB8CB3fDkmhiyms0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3ODdxdHBhBHNlYwM5NjQ

This just goes to show that the Republicans just CAN'T take ANY criticism. They can't tolerate any kind of public nor private debate about any of their issues or political figures. John 'Cougar' Mellencamp only said "this is for all the poor people being left behind by the current administration." This is a fairly innocuous criticism, without even qualifying it as a fair one, which it is. These guys can't even stomach a known left-of-center, working-class-origins Indiana-rural rock'n'roller standing up for the poor.

Somehow we've got to make these bastards go away, and if we wait much longer, it's going to become absolutely impossible to do. It has come to the point at which they cannot be made to listen to any sort of dissent or critique without becoming immovably indignant or enraged, and the criminalization of dissent is increasing. As I have said many, many times: Americans are so easily led that they don't even need a Big Brother. America has no secret political police helping to monitor or adjust public opinion; Americans do it to themselves.

That's one of the things that makes all of this so unforgivable: These people are certainly not living under the gun, like many African-Americans and other poor people do. They're in the cat-bird seat, as they say, at the top of the mountain, and they're so addicted to the power that they fear coming off the top of that hill. They shriek at the thought of someone else approaching that summit, or even at the thought of becoming irrelevant. Their thirst for power is vastly greater than their thirst for wealth, because they always have that. It's beyond the wealth issue now, and in fact long has been so.

We've got to begin smashing their tools before everything has completely fallen into place for them and they cannot be dislodged. We've got to find a way to make real public opinion relevant and to take away the power from these parasites before they can get us all killed or packed off to the labor camps. It's coming, folks, because with more power comes more thirst. What do you think is going to be the natural end of the evolution of a merciless, one-sided system like this one? There can be no other end result: there will be the uberrich and there will be slaves. We're headed there now.

The Alienist

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The following comments are for "Fear of Criticism & Dissent, Thirst for Power"
by The Alienist

The “Agenda”

I am usually in agreement with you Alienist, and your opinion here proves no exception.
More and more, I am ashamed to be an American. This comes from one who has been known to be moved to tears by our national anthem or by the "Pledge of Allegiance" being lead by a boy scout at a PTA meeting. I am a patriot, but this is not the America I love. But what do we DO? The brain washing mechanism has been in place for many years, and the hordes follow blindly along paying more attention to acquiring the latest in i-pods, than to the numbers maimed, mutilated and "manic-ked" by wars.
I hear now we are supplying bombs to Israel. THAT'S a good idea. Wonder what our Muslim brothers will think of that! The picture is perverted. I'd like to turn off this channel. I’m wondering how long until I’m afraid of firemen, and Uncle Sam bear’s a striking resemblance to a mechanical dog.

“The people in this society do not read books, enjoy nature, spend time by themselves, think independently, or have meaningful conversations. Instead, they drive very fast, watch excessive amounts of television on wall-size sets, and listen to the radio on “Seashell Radio” sets attached to their ears.”

I’m going to start hiding my books-


( Posted by: emaks [Member] On: July 23, 2006 )

emaks and alienist
Ah, emaks, the US has been supplying bombs, guns, and other military goodies to Israel since Israel was created. The only reason Israel surives is that the US wants it to, as it's a key strategic military site (and the fundies believe it needs to survive long enough to usher in armageddon). Hundreds of billions of dollars in aid, military and otherwise, over the decades, while preventing any peaceful settlement between Israel and the Palestinians (well documented), yet whenever there's a "peace summit" or some other thinly-disguised nonsense, we all lap it up as sincere.

So this is nothing new.

Canadians are no better, I'd say. We (and the rest of the world) sit around with our thumbs up our asses waiting to see what the yanks do next anmd hoping they don't bring the whole house crashing down. Because our economies are so interdependent, once you fall, so will we all. The rest of the world could put an end to the shenanigans of your governments if it could get its act together, but it won't. Look what happened to the UN: the US used its veto power to make it useless and no one has ever done anything about it.

Why? For the same reason most conspiracy theories are bullshit: people can't get organized on a grand scale. Too many competing interests and egos.

I want to reiterate, though: it isn't as though American governments are especially evil. Not at all. They just have more power, and thus more corruption. If Canada had that sort of power, we'd be just as corrupt. Hey, we even have roughly similar fundamentalist populations to lend corruption that self-satisfying righteous glow in which Bush basks.

Alienist -- you're right. Another forceful and interesting missive.

( Posted by: viper9 [Member] On: July 23, 2006 )

It's true the US has been supplying Israel with weapons since it's inception, as well as training and arming our puppets-turned-"Chuckies", aka Saddamm, and BinLaden.

I was more questioning the intelligence behind this current supply, what with the turmoil currently displayed on our television sets regarding the Laboneese Hezbollah. This is another example of the cowboy mentality in the white house.
To supply or not is not really what I was refering, but to announce such support, in light of world situations, seems to be inviting more trouble.
Never mind, I just realized my oxymoron for considering intelligence and the current administration in the same sentence...

At least most Canadians that I am familiar with are AWARE of the abuse of power.
Most of the kids at my high-school don't even know who Cheney is. I use Cheney as an example only because there was an actual poll taken at the school that bears this fact out- I'm sure we would find they are clueless about most world matters that did not include rappers or sports stars. Sadder still, they don't CARE-


( Posted by: emaks [Member] On: July 23, 2006 )

emaks redux
I see what you mean, yeah. It does seem awfully ill-advised.

I don't think Canadian kids are much more well-informed than American kids (they tend to score better on history and geography, and slightly better in math, than their American counterparts, but those tests are poor indicators of knowledge).

Most of my students are 17-23 years old, and they're much like the American kids you decry. Again, I don't think there's all that much of a difference between the two groups. They listen to mostly the same music, watch mostly the same movies and TV shows, share many of the same opinions, and most of them are pretty ignorant.

I look at it this way: the kids I see, in a university, are those who excelled in high school, are supposedly more motivated, and are assumed to be better informed than kids who don't end up at my institution (or others like it). Yet if they are the cream of the crop, the rest of the crop must be a rotten fetid cesspool.

Here's a disturbing example. At the beginning of each semester, I try to get to know the students by administering a brief survey, which asks questions like, "What do you want to accomplish with your life?" In a class of 40, 35-38 will tell me they want to have a big house, they want a couple of nice cars, they want to make a lot of money, or they want to be famous.

That's the extent of their ambition. That's as far as they can see, their horizon and scope. Material wealth is all they want.

When I mention this, most of these students seem confused by the mention of other possibilities -- helping others, reforming the educational system, becoming a community leader, creating something new, etc. I have to point out these possibilities because they can't come up with them on their own. As you mention, they're distracted to the point of mindlessness and they think of human beings as "consumers" to the exclusion of all else.

Not all are like this, but most. The majority by far.

It's a scary world.

( Posted by: viper9 [Member] On: July 23, 2006 )

Don't be surprised, friends.
Remember what Aldous Huxley illustrated about the future with his use of Henry Ford as a god, the assembly line system as a 'church' and consumerism as a faith.

Make the sign of the 'T' and buy, buy, buy. Even when 9-11 happened, before the metallic dust was even beginning to settle, Bush was admonishing the public to continue to shop. I found that flabbergasting. I could not believe that anyone would say anything like that in such circumstances, but of course he was put in the White House to help the uberrich.

Our purpose in this society, according to the thought of those in power, is as was predicted by Orwell and Huxley: consume goods, provide labor and tax base, and obey. We are also highly expendable. As the soldiers coming back, ask the poor who have no medical insurance, ask the old being thrown out into the street, ask the people of color and poor displaced by Hurricane Katrina.

The people at the top regard absolutely everybody else as a lesser species. They honestly do not regard the rest of us as human, because we have not proven ourselves truly 'sentient' (in their thought) by acquiring their level of wealth. We're pawns, tools, slaves and whores, and that is all.

( Posted by: The Alienist [Member] On: July 24, 2006 )

Bush, Bombs, BS
"but of course he was put in the White House to help the uberrich."
-yes. I well remember when he was "put" in the white house-


( Posted by: emaks [Member] On: July 24, 2006 )

"Brave New World"
Aldous Huxley

I see it too.

Though I don't agree with everything that has been said here, I do agree with some of it. I have never been comfortable with broad generalizations of any kind, such as "Republicans can't take ANY criticism". It tends to turn on my CAREFULLY scrutinize what is really being said here buttons. To me, it cheapens the greater picture. I do think that you have made some very strong points. Good composition.

It certainly has been very thought provoking and interesting reading.

( Posted by: unseenwriterx [Member] On: July 24, 2006 )

Bush's "Brave New World"
Had to visit again. Indeed, we are needed. Needed for servitude. We are the minnion masses, easily distracted by shiny, pricey objects.

My reference above was to 'Fahrenheit 451', and I say, is yet another parrallel for our world of now and to come- The television screens are already wall size and now mount on the wall as well.
-Who was YOUR American idol?

Where do we sign up for the "Run the Administration Out On a Rail" committee?

- E (again)

( Posted by: emaks [Member] On: July 25, 2006 )

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