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Man I haven't been here in awhile. I forgot how much I used to write. Wugga. Anyway, so the other day I'm driving back home from Myrtle Beach (nice place) I come across this billboard that says roughly along the lines of: "Jesus is the savior of the world. Ask Him if He'll be yours today." Now, I run across alot of weird billboards. Like one for a place that sells wigs. What the hell? No one's going to say "Oh hell, I'm tired of being bald, I'ma go buy myself a wig" while they're driving on the interstate. And another for some place that sells bras or some shit. Maybe its just cause I'm a guy and I can't quite enter into that mentality, but I would think that no one would just pull off the road and buy some bras. I know I wouldn't pull over to buy some boxers because that's the kind of thing I'm going to already have.

Anyway, back to the Jesus billboard. Things like that tick me off to no end. The number one problem I have with this is what if a beer commercial claimed that their beer was the best shit since sliced bread, was the liquid savior of the world, and was damn better than any other beer ever made? Would that be allowed to air? No. They'd get slapped with false advertising or some crap. So why is this crap allowed to be slapped on billboards? I'm tired of this Christianity harboring America that tries to claim there is a seperation of church and state, yet it clearly benefits you if you're Christian.

This kind of thing builds up. A man can only handle but so many pretentious people that try to press their opinion upon him. Some old doddering loon has absolutely no right to have a holier-than-thou attitude with me, no matter what its about. I don't care about your God, and I sure as hell don't care about his son. I didn't have a problem with the shepard, until I met the sheep.

Do people at some point just forget about the respect that others deserve? By trying to force your religion on someone you are insulting their intelligence, their opinion, their own religion, and you're wasting their time.

However, now that I'm on the topic of a hypocritically religious America, lets move on to America in general. Let's hear it for this "War on Terror". I'm sorry, but some turds with a crudely made bomb only wish they could achieve the level of terror the American military commands. Carpet bombing, missiles launched from miles away, marines armed with the most high-tech weaponry to date. Not to mention, Iraq has nothing to do with these "terrorists". And even if they did, let's examine the hypocrisy of waging a "war on terror". Terrorism as America uses it is essentially guerilla warfare. Now, let's see, what tactic is left to people whose homeland is occupied, yet they have no good military left to them? Guerilla warfare. What tactic did America use to gain its freedom? Guerilla warfare. So what is America built upon? Terrorism.

This kind of asshole-ism that's typical of America can be seen throughout America's history. A country deserves freedom if they're taxes are too high, yet wanting to throw off the yolk of real oppression (such as the Philippines) is not allowed? The killing of 2,000 civilians (9.11) is not acceptable, yet the killing of 24,000 (Iraq, CNN reported this) is? And no, "terrorists" do not account for 24,000 civilian deaths. There would have to be more than one pitiful explosion a day to kill that many. The bulk of those dead are due to American military in the majority of the combat of the war, which would all be before the fall of Baghdad.

Not to mention, America has never cared about civilians. The Philippines, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, the extermination of the Native Americans, World War I and II, etc. The worst part about all of this is America will not admit that they are tyrannical imperialistic assholes. Hell, I'd say more power to America if they admitted it, but they don't.

We have holocaust memorials throughout the US for a crime a bit over 65 years ago. Estimates of the holocaust range from 26 to 11 million. Yet we have no memorials for the half a million killed in Japan over a much shorter course of time. We have no memorials for the Japanese-Americans wrongfully taken from their homes and slammed into concentration camps just because they were of Japanese heritage. We have no memorials for the estimated 100 million Native Americans killed at American hands (well, sure, disease isn't exactly at their hands, but handing out diseased blankets to tribes because you know they're diseased is still killing them).

Even if we took 1/10th of the Native American deaths, America has over 11 million wrongful deaths inflicted in its past. And yet we're the country that can say anything about liberty, or freedom, or being good? America, my friends, is not a champion of anything good.

And the single most aggravating thing I hear lately is people saying they're disappointed with Bush, but they voted for him because they felt he was the "lesser of two evils". WHAT?! Excuse me, but Bush was responsible for INVADING two countries, neither of which should have been invaded. Bush was responsible for the death (at the time) for about 1,000 American deaths, and at least 15,000 civilian deaths. He lies to the American people, kills their young men for no reason, and is the lesser of two evils?! What the hell was Kerry responsible for? Sure, he might not have deserved any of his purple hearts, but politicians were never goddamned fighters anyway. I mean, big surprise. Kerry had no history of presidency, so he had no history of evil. Bush, however, had a huge one.

Not only that, but Gore beat Bush in the popular vote, yet Kerry lost to Bush in that area. America outta be ashamed of themselves. Gore was a dick, and way worse than Kerry, yet he got more votes? What the HELL is wrong with people?

Now don't get me wrong, I don't take sides in politics usually. I hate liberals as much as I hate conservatives. In fact, we'd all benefit if the liberals up and disappeared. But this is just ridiculous. America needs to wake the fuck up.

Answer me, ANYONE, why we nearly had a president impeached for simply fooling around with a woman in the office, yet lying to the country (and, consquentially, causing 26,000 deaths for absolutely no reason) is tolerated? Hell, this is the president that is detaining people without evidence and indefinately. This is the president that supported the Patriot Act. Good lord. When I read about the Patriot Act in the paper, I just laughed and said "Ha! That'll never pass. That's just an attempt to rape the Constitution, Congress will never allow that!" and yet, there was no public outcry! And, from what I hear, some form of it passed?!

I'm sorry, but if stuff directly contradicting the goddamn Constitution is not met with an outcry and the threat of impeachment, there is no hope for this country.

Stay metal!

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The following comments are for "Jesus, Beer, and America"
by xitwound117

Jesus, Beer and America...
I am not big on politics so I won't pretend to be. I agree with you on some issues and don't on others but the point I wanted to make is you DO get your point across and I like the way you state "your" facts. Good rant.

Nae ;0)

( Posted by: nae411 [Member] On: August 1, 2005 )

Is that a crack at my facts?
Or are you addressing my opinions?

Because anything factual I've said in here is researched. I can post sources if you like. And considering they're such sources as BBC and CNN, and online encyclopedia's, I think I'm pretty correct.

Hell, anything factual I've stated is pretty well-known anyway.

( Posted by: xitwound117 [Member] On: August 1, 2005 )

No not a crack
I guess you don't know me or my humor ;0)(or poor attempt at humor most of the time) no that was not a crack. I actually was complementing your writing. I am sorry you took it the wrong way, I did not mean it that way at all. Peace.

Nae ;0)

( Posted by: nae411 [Member] On: August 1, 2005 )

Ah, understood
No, I wouldn't be familiar with your humor or anything, because I'm barely here, but completely understood now.

Anyway, thanks for the comment.

( Posted by: xitwound117 [Member] On: August 1, 2005 )

XIT's Drunk Jesus

I know that it is often contentious to use quotes from our American "Founding Fathers", but, in light of your rant, I am going to do so here.

Some may want to point-out that these men were "all slave owners", and such-like things. This is true of James Madison, however, it is also true that he helped many free blacks, who so-wished, to go to Africa.

Even against his own admonition ("Do not separate text from historical background."), I submit these words from James Madison:

"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations."

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."

"It is a universal truth that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or pretended, from abroad."

"No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare."

"The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation where the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."

"The executive has no right, in any case, to decide the question, whether there is or is not cause for declaring war."

"The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home."

"The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries."

Similar statements to much of the above can be found coming from Thomas Jefferson and others. Whatever you might think of these men, the ideas expressed 200 years ago are of interest here.

~ John

( Posted by: Flonigus [Member] On: August 2, 2005 )

good old American Bash
You write really well,Xit. I take issue with your documented facts though. You seem to have swallowed copious amounts of leftist liberal propaganda. It happens to all of us at one time or another. I will comment on only one aspect of your rant today, and when I return from vacation, I will opine on the rest.

Quote: "Why is this crap allowed to be slapped on billboards?"

Answer: Because some greedy corporate mega-giant advertising agency took those dirty rotten imposing bastardly Christian-Jesus freaks pass -the plate money given by poor little old Grandma's who can't afford to buy anything but dogfood(my fave is Cal-Can)to eat.What a bunch of ignorant dupes, that's who those Christians are.

More importantly, and to the point,Xit. It is a free country, free, and unless you want to change that, you will have to put up with whatever people will pay for. I know you don't want to wreck your car/bike/bus/ass, while looking at that billboard, and I certainly wouldn't want you die reading that drivel while doing 70 on the freeway, but you really do have the option to look away. Just look away. Myrtle Beach is beautiful this time of year. I love your avatar.

Good rant.


( Posted by: williamhill [Member] On: August 2, 2005 )

You miss my point
Its not that I give a shit about what's actually ON the billboard. Its that I can't have a beer commercial of equal sentiments, despite the fact that this country says I can. That's false advertising. Plain and simple. And while its a free country, we still have laws.

My documented facts all, like I said before, have sources. Not shifty leftist bullshit, I watch out for anything that looks tampered with. Its all reliable stuff. I mean, the civilian casualties report was from CNN. Last I checked, the televised news was Bush's bitch. Granted, CNN is less so than others, but still.

Plus, it appears you took it as "I don't like Christians". No, I know alot of very cool Christians. I don't like the ignorant annoying preachy kind. Because I don't like ignorant annoying preachy anyone.

Anyway, I've got my head stuck so far into the ground that I don't have exposure to any sort of propaganda. My opinions on Bush are formed because I was originally opposed to the war, but wasn't terribly vocal about it. But then a month or so ago, I felt curious about the casualties. Basically, if an "Operation Iraqi Freedom" ends up killing 10 times the amount of Iraqi civilians that the US ever lost, Bush is an asshat. Does that mean I don't support our troops? No it doesn't. They're brave as shit, and I'd like it if they all came back alive. So when I see that almost 2,000 US soldiers have been killed for a war that was supposed to be for confiscating WMDs when in fact there were none, I get pissed off.

You know, the whole WMD thing is HILARIOUS. As 9.11 showed us, they don't need WMDs to kill us. They just need planes.

( Posted by: xitwound117 [Member] On: August 2, 2005 )

Jesus saves beer

Well writen rant! I'm not in complete agreement with all of your opinions, but I'm aware of their factual basis. I've posted little or nothing political since Bush reelection so I guess I'm due...

Unfortunately, while freedom of speech is indeed free, being heard requires freedom of the press, which is rather expensive.

( Posted by: drsoos [Member] On: August 3, 2005 )

i don't drink beer, but

I'll second drsoos on that! I also hate those annoying signs, I feel like I am in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre movie or something while driving down those roads. I am not even a citizen, and have to pay taxes for all this bullshit and can't even vote (would it make a difference)?


( Posted by: macbeth [Member] On: August 3, 2005 )

Godvertising vs. Beervertising

I ain't getting into the religion thing or the political thing today. I am a Christian, but I'm also a radbid liberal. So while I will, at some point, if you like, tell you why I do believe in God and Christ, doing so in the same space as a conversation about billboards and modern American politics would make me itch. As far as politics in general is concerned... it's 11:02 pm, and if I get started, I won't be able to sleep.

But, I can be of some asistance in terms of your anger/issue regarding the rights of the church to post an ad that seems to violate advertising regs that beer (or other) advertisers have to follow. AS a 15-year marketing and advertising veteran, I assure you, it does not.

First of all, most advertising claims fall under a much more limited class of free speech known as commercial speech. People like to think we have free speech at all times, but we don't. There's the obvious stuff -- you can't say things that will hurt people (Yelling "Fire!" in a crowded movie theatre being the classic example), you can't threaten people, you can't say things that aren't true that will harm someones reputation, etc.

In the commercial arena, and in advertising in particular, speech is much more highly regulated. This is in order to protect consumers, and to make sure that companies aren't violating tons of various regs from a variety of administrative bodies with alphabet-soup titles; the FDA, FAA, FCC, etc.

One of the simplest commercial speech concepts is that of "truth in advertising." Before around 1910 (I forget exactly), you could say anything in an ad. Anything. And they did. They said that cigarettes helped with sore throats. That gargling with Listerine cured cancer. That "the other guy's" toilet paper gave you VD. That eating oatmeal built muscle better than eating beef. That cotton grown in Europe was inferior to cotton grown in the US. All kinds of straight out lies. Which are, as I think we'd all agree, bad for consumers.

So, a number of truth in advertising laws were passed. Saying, basically, you can't lie in your ads.

Now... what you can do, is puff. "Puffery," as it's affectionately known, is the advertising equivalent of bragging. What is the different between bragging and lying? Easy.

"This is the best sandwich in Chicago!" That's puffery. What's "best?" It's different for everyone. That's why there's so much unsubstantiable language in ads. "Tastes great" Compared to what? "Less filling." Than what? Exactly. Puffery.

"This is the biggest sandwich in Chicago!" Could be a lie... unless it really IS the biggest sandwich in Chicago. Steer clear of claims that can be proved false. People sue over stuff like that.

So... first thing that makes the Christian ad on your billboard OK is that it's essentially puffery. It's unproveable. "Jesus is the savior of the world. Ask Him if He'll be yours today." Can't prove it one way or the other.

And beer companies can puff (and do... see "Tastes Great. Less Filling" above) just as hard and long as churches. There's more puffery in American advertising than there is real substance. Partly because it's easier, partly because it's harder to lititgate against.

Chruches do, though, have one commercial speech advantage; they are non-profit entities. Since they do not return a profit to shareholders, and since their revenue records are (usually) subject to fairly high scrutiny in terms of how/what their onwers/operators do with church monies, their commercial communications are generally less troubled by the government than those of for-profit companies. IE, if your ad agency is lying to take unfair advantage in the marketplace, the Attorney General will come getcha. If the church is lying to put money in the collection basket... well, they may just be asked to stop. Because they ain't doing it to make money in the commercial arena.

Fair? Maybe not. But we have always had different rules for religious institutions in this country. But at least we have the same different rules for all the different institutions. Synagoguges, mosques, temples and churches all get the same breaks.

So don't be too offended at the unfairness of what the church can get away with. There are countries where you can't openly be any religion except what the government is. And there are countries where, if you complain about the government on an open forum like this one, you'd get your ears cut off.

I don't like much about the current administration. And I do think we have lots of improvements to make. But I also think that the majority of the people -- and that includes the hundreds of thousands of folks working in the halls of government -- in the US are good, honest, hard-working folks who are just trying to do their jobs, have some fun, get laid, play with their kids, have a few drinks and maybe write some poetry. In fact, I think that's probably what 99.9% of the people on this planet want to do.

You're a good writer, Xit. And I hate a lot of this mess we're in, too. But I think ours is a great country. One with problems, but still great at its heart.

Any ideas on how to make it better? Positive ideas? Not ones that involve sticking a bass saxaphone up anyone's ass and playing "Smoke on the Water" at 200 decibels... although that solution appeals to me some days, too.

( Posted by: andyhavens [Member] On: August 8, 2005 )

Sorry, haven't been near a computer recently.

But anyway, that advertising stuff is interesting. I never found the billboard offensive, I just didn't like it. Even if its legally allowed, I still don't like it, but its interesting to know why its allowed.

I'm fully aware of the fact that some countries will cut your ears off for just about anything. But on the other hand, we weren't given the ability to improve a country just so that we could all be glad of the fact that some loser has it much worse-off than we do. I'm using the right, and I appreciate it. But I recognize there are also countries that aren't as retarded as the US that still have that right.

Even though 99.9% of the human population is good-hearted and honest, what matters is the administration governing the very same good-hearted people. If good people with the ability to throw down a clearly wrong administration, doesn't that make them responsible for the wrong themselves? History will not judge us by our population, it will judge us by our administration's actions. And we will not be judged very well at all.

I can't say I agree with the "good at heart" sentiment about America, unless we're talking in a manner that is similar to that of when talking about an ignorant child that refuses to improve its thinking. Honestly, I think Canada, the non-Tony Blair supporting part of England, and a good portion of Europe is "good at heart". I mean, since when has Canada invaded two countries without cause? Heck, since when did Canada have any kind of impressive military? The most good-at-heart country, in my eyes, is the one that does the least wrong.

However, I do agree with much of what you say, and I definately appreciate the explanation of why the billboard is allowed. Thank you for such a well-written response!

( Posted by: xitwound117 [Member] On: August 14, 2005 )

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