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Question: If tendency of salient features, allowing all--pathos, violence, rage, deliberate crudeness and determination to shake "viewer" up--to come through....Then are not "Gangsta" rappers 'keepers of the flame' for Expressionism?

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The following comments are for ""Gangsta" Rappers/Keepers of the Flame?"
by Bobby7L

Keeping the Faith
Bobby,

As I mentioned earlier, I can see what you mean. I believe that they aren't keeping it so much as they are keeping it burning. Do you see what I mean?

Lans

( Posted by: GibsonGirl [Member] On: May 26, 2005 )

Lans/"Gansta"/ "Flamed".
...It is at least a valid question. That all the "features" of early 20th century "Expressionistic" art can now be found in the lyrics/music videos of "Gangsta" rappers, leads to my question..

They may well "carry" torch. There is valid poetry, as well, paying BANK!

Thanks for input.
RW

( Posted by: Bobby7L [Member] On: May 26, 2005 )

New Favourite
Although for humourous reasons:

"how could you put him through the Ghetto Kama Sutra?"

( Posted by: GibsonGirl [Member] On: May 26, 2005 )

Lans: I'm a 'Dirty South'Resider
The doggs cumin out deez kennels don't got papers..Day got paper on them. From County to FED. They poppin. They carry it. They bring it.
Open 24 hours a day.

Peace.
BobbyG

( Posted by: Bobby7L [Member] On: May 26, 2005 )

Oh Buoy
Here we go again...

aw yeah.

Lizz-ans

( Posted by: GibsonGirl [Member] On: May 26, 2005 )

Deliberate Crudeness
Lansnisha- It's just good clean fun. Don't wish to tax brains.

On the corner,
BobbyG

( Posted by: Bobby7L [Member] On: May 27, 2005 )

Tax Man
B-Boy, It's all good.


"here we go again:
turn it up!
bring the noise!......

Never badder than bad
ícause the brother is madder than mad
At the fact thatís
corrupt as a senator!"

Public Enemy, "Bring The Noise"

Lans
(rap nerd)

( Posted by: GibsonGirl [Member] On: May 27, 2005 )

G-Girl / Rap Nerd
Lans- Guess we could have just utilized a pair of walkie-talkies for this one...

B

( Posted by: Bobby7L [Member] On: May 29, 2005 )

Remember
Cans and twine? I like that idea. Has anyone ever tested its validity?

LL

( Posted by: GibsonGirl [Member] On: May 29, 2005 )

"Cans and twine..." Can you hear me now?
Lans- Yes! Of course they worked! At least in my backyard, they did...

Smiling...Made this post worthwhile.
B

( Posted by: Bobby7L [Member] On: May 29, 2005 )

Expanding Horizons
B-Boy: Makin' With the Freak-Freak,

They put up towers

We strung cans with twine

Whose horizons grew?


Watts' Towers are prettier by far. Have you seen the architecture of Bruce Goff?

Ditto,

gG

( Posted by: GibsonGirl [Member] On: May 29, 2005 )

Bruce Goff
He built some massive churches in Northeast.

"Can you hear me now?"....

B

( Posted by: Bobby7L [Member] On: May 29, 2005 )

Can I get a Wha-Wha?
Wha-choo talkin' bout Willis? lol

( Posted by: GibsonGirl [Member] On: May 29, 2005 )

Steppin' in time, B7L...
just got home, smilin', too...good question, my friend, pathos we all are, at some time or another, at least Master Webster thought so...
but, then again, a patho at some time or another...opinion, noticed and so on and so on...you are a man with a point, that has aim...
All good...

Robin

( Posted by: Robinbird [Member] On: May 29, 2005 )

Robin: Poet Psychology
Robin- Thanks. Just as important as what is said, is what gets left out...At least that's my M.O.

"Make it new."-- Ezra Pound

B

( Posted by: Bobby7L [Member] On: May 29, 2005 )

B7L...
Bobby, you used to be much more fun, just plain
simple good fun...I know your M.O., that's cool,
must say you have been a great instructor of that
which has been left out, or the read between the lines "thing"...Personal observasion, meant sincere, what you see is what you get(ME)...I miss Bobby...

just Robin

( Posted by: Robinbird [Member] On: May 29, 2005 )

Robin: Mixed Messages
Robin: Context being, I've only posted here for 5 months*, with a pair of 2 week breaks, I understand how you may get that idea. Yeah, it may be reflective of recent personal/private things. I keep them seperate (Don't discuss here)...Try "A Perfect Crime."...and: "There is rain on my head!"/ The Magnificent Mushroom" ...

*We live in serious times, with serious issues. I have ALWAYS written about what's going on...for 3 decades. My "fun" posts here represent a minute part of an extensive vault of material. Most of my writing is actually of a serious nature, even when appearing humourous on surface.

I appreciate your continued interest in my work and don't wish to come across as not "fun."

Thanks,
Bobby

( Posted by: Bobby7L [Member] On: May 29, 2005 )

B7L evolution...
well now, huuummm? made me think deeper, I have probably(surely) went thru more changes than yourself...so maybe I miss me, at that time,
although I can't go back and would not...I have changed and evoled as much or possibly more than anyone on site...I decided live or die, Robin...
I decided to live...after 8yrs of horror after losing a 2yr old boy, I was at a pass, this way or that...I chose to live, dying had become a way of life for me and near I was...

For myself and my little boy, I chose the hard
most rewarding way...Live! So here we are, never
question your sageness, actually at times like this, I question, who are you? Mystery man...

Robin, in her learning has gathered yet, another
delightful deeper realization...I'll leave it there, you'll do me again, and more I will learn.
Till then...

Robin

( Posted by: Robinbird [Member] On: May 29, 2005 )

Robin- "That's why."
Robin- A lady once asked Pablo Picasso: Since you can draw so beautifully, why do you spend your time making those queer things?" Picasso: "That's why."

I guess if question is: Since I can be so humourous and know how to have bigtime fun, why do I choose to be so serious? "That's why."

Take care of you,
B

( Posted by: Bobby7L [Member] On: May 29, 2005 )

RUN run D MC
Hey I thought I'd weigh in as well here. I'm a white guy from Boston, and now I live in Alabama. It was pointed out to me that the earliest forms of Jazz etc, really African style music in general is based around the drum beat. (ever watch Dave Chappell?) The first album I bought with my own money was Run D MC Raising Hell. So I've been listening for awhile, and I think that some rap is expressionistic, but beware. Like all forms of expression there is crud out there. Guys like Tupac are the torch bearers. Some "get it" and some don't care. I have no time for those who don't care. I also got into an argument about Eminem with my Sociology Prof. She never listened to him, but still made judgements. I laughed for a few minutes then realized she was serious. It was over when I found out she'd never even bothered to listen.
RW

( Posted by: Robert Walker [Member] On: June 1, 2005 )

Walker Runs with DMC
Robert- I saw Run DMC in NYC-1978. They were a seminal rap act, for sure. Good luck with that Soc Prof.

Thanks for reading and letting me know.
RW

( Posted by: Bobby7L [Member] On: June 1, 2005 )





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