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>In an ironic twist of logic, on his July 6 episode of The 700 Club Pat Robertson, predicted that this type of violence will continue into the >future. "There will be many more of them." He blamed Americans United for Separation of Church and State (AU) for the "violence, >killing, mayhem [and] hatred." His rationale was that if the ACLU, the AU and similar groups succeed in their goal of attaining true >separation of church and state in the U.S., that the public will have have no religious influence to restrain them. Robertson said that in >order to minimize racial assassinations, "...we must pull together to once again reestablish the Bible as our guidebook for faith and >conduct." The AU requested an immediate on-air apology for these statements.

In what little is left that is positive about America, one of its best, most effective guarantors of freedom has been SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE, and this is one of the bulwarks of what freedom we have ever had in America, even today. Here we have someone who presents himself as an ultimate American Patriot and hero, and a man of God, someone who in the past has campaigned for the office of the President of the United States, telling us that (true) separation of church and state is folly and harmful. He's telling us that religion needs to be mixed with government in order to make society cohesive and protect it from falling into chaos. Is China chaotic? Was the USSR chaotic? Granted, totalitarian psuedo-communism is no way to live, but atheism doesn't have much to do with their order. They still succeeded in much, as China does today (however imperfectly). Does this asshole want today's Iran? Does he want women and children and groups of men hanging on blue nooses from construction cranes above crowds?

Watch the movie 'The Handmaiden's Tale' to get a taste of what America is headed for under the guidance of people like Pat Robertson.

He says that without a government characterized by religious institution interwoven therein, we will have no civility, no society. That is insane. Religion, as shown by Christ Himself, is something practiced from the heart, not from some bench or office someplace. One's relationship with God is intensely private. No government can hope to positively influence it. All it can ever do is empower those who seek to use religion to control the masses, as has always been done in America and its european mother countries before it.

The American People, the world's most easily indoctrinated and manipulated population, needs to WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!

THINK FOR YOURSELF!!! You don't need or want kooks like Pat Robertson poking around in your mind for the powermongers who keep him on television! Aren't you embarassed, America, to have idiots like this influencing your life right in front of the rest of humanity?

The Alienist

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The following comments are for "Pat Robertson, Amerikkka's Religious Right Retard vs Separation of Church and State"
by the alienist

Alien Religion
I agree with most of what you say. I do not think that we should have to hold our beliefs to ourselves though--that would violate freedom of speech. Separation of church and state is not the same as separation of church from state. It is not some nuance an educated person should take lightly.


( Posted by: williamhill [Member] On: April 8, 2005 )

Here we go AGAIN...
Are you listening to Pat Robertson and taking to heart, that he speaks for "The American People?"
I'm One of " the American People" and nobody speaks for me, but, Me! I guarantee you, alot of People, feel the same way.

The only person that manipulates me is my Father,
preferably called my "Daddy", cause I let him, I respect him and I love him. And, I literally, just, let him think he's manipulating me. Also, he know's this is the game we play, he respect's me. Furthermore, He has kept me awake and I know it.

I don't like being grouped nor stereotyped. If you want to listen to Pat Robertson and honestly beleive everybody else does...Have at it, it's your closet...

Just Robin

( Posted by: Robinbird [Member] On: April 8, 2005 )

Patty Rob
Though my loathing for Pat Robertson is limitless, I agree with williamhill: this doesn't seem to have anything to do with separation of Church and State.

It's just more sheeple desperate for someone to tell them what to do and think. That'll never change. And there will always be people willing to give the sheeple what they want -- not just religious nuts like Robertson, Falwell or Graham. There are politicians, educators, activists, and journalists who all want to do the same thing.

You'd probably agree, alienist!

For my part, I find it difficult sometimes to remember that just because there are lots of lunatics and halfwits in a given profession (say, the ministry) that doesn't mean there aren't good people in there as well. It's the sort of thing you have to keep reminding yourself or cynicism can overhwelm you. Or maybe that's just me!

( Posted by: Viper9 [Member] On: April 8, 2005 )

I agree with your thoughts. I've long thought of Robertson and his ilk as fascists in sheep's clothing.

As a child of the Television Generation (born in 1945), it's apparent that T.V. is not just a "vast wasteland" for the dumbing down of the United States citizenry, but has been become an effective tool for propaganda and the furtherance of mindless conformity.

What's funny about the religious right's complaints is that, as I understand it, the U.S has more churches per capita than any other country and polls show that the vast majority of citizens consider themselves religious.

Apparently, all these churches must be failing miserably since they are so insistent that we have the halls of our schools and congress inundated with religious symbols and credo. Eh? What's up with that? Or is all this religious hyperbole really a smokescreen for the nefarious shenanigans of the rich and powerful to get all us sheep marching in lockstep?

( Posted by: gomarsoap [Member] On: April 9, 2005 )

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