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early dusk
the whip-poor-will's cry
wakens the moon


"I place these moments in my pocket
to be pulled
at the rush of noon,
the crush of three...
when tears come,
when words must learn to be enough..." MKL

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The following comments are for "cry haiku"
by Serenem

no real suject to give
Haikus are alway hard to write, because you need to be so concise. I liked this one.

( Posted by: Ilan Bouchard [Member] On: August 10, 2004 )


Thank you for reading this, I'm glad you liked it!



( Posted by: Serenem [Member] On: August 11, 2004 )

this is beautiful I thought that haiku was supposed to be syllable 5-7-5. Thank you for reviewing cryptic's weeping willow tree haiku, i learned a bit i didn't know, such as no capitals. You are very pleasant to read, thank you.

( Posted by: MzJen1 [Member] On: August 11, 2004 )

Another beautiful one Melinda. huni.

( Posted by: huni [Member] On: August 11, 2004 )

MzJen, huni,
MzJen, Hello! Thank you; I'm glad that you liked this! I've been learning a lot of new things about haiku, as well. This is what I've learned...

The debate over syllables is an ongoing one. Haiku is so much more than 5-7-5-- In japanese, the haiku has five sound units on the first line, seven on the second, and five on the third. The problem stems from the fact that the japanese sound unit, the on-- is not the same as a syllable, but when the western culture translated the concept, this is the closest they could come to the japanese on. Often, Japanese haiku, when written in english, comes out to much less than seventeen syllables. The way Ive heard it explained is that it can be written as seventeen syllables in the 5-7-5 pattern, or as a short line, long line, short line in less syllables-- just that it should never more than seventeen.

I hope this helps explain why some haiku are written in less syllables than others!

Huni, I think that you are the beautiful one, dear...

Thank you, so much!


( Posted by: Serenem [Member] On: August 13, 2004 )

Is there a staff member or anyone??
who can help find out what may be happening?

I often have trouble logging on and/or staying logged on. It's seriously keeping me from participating here. Typically, I will log on in the morning and I'll get one or two posts in and I'll go check another site ( sometimes I log out, sometimes I won't-- I've tried both ways) and when I come back I'll be logged off and I I try to log back in and nothing happens-- I enter the info, it cycles and the field comes back blank-- no log on! Sometimes, I'll even be logged off mid session, while I'm reading or posting.
This is the only place that this happens at, so I don't *think* it's my computer.

This is extremely frustrating! I want to participate, to post more, but I can't! I'm even worried that by the time I'm ready to hit the submit button on this, I'll already be logged off!

Can someone Help?!?


I miss you guys!


( Posted by: Serenem [Member] On: August 13, 2004 )

I like your cry haiku, Melinda.

Well, I am not a staff but I can give you an idea based on my own experience. If you shut down one window without logging off properly, that will leave the system as you're still logged in. So when you turn on again one window and go to Lit, and try to log-in, the system will not acknowledge because it reads as you're still logged in. Your being logged-in will last for like an hour maybe (or maybe longer), so you can just wait and try and try again.

My best advice will be for you to always remember to log-out if you think of wandering outside Lit even for a moment, because you might just forget and shut-down the window you are using. I hope I've been of help, Melinda. Again, your haiku is nice! ;D

( Posted by: peterpaulino [Member] On: August 13, 2004 )

peter, thanks, I'll try to take note of that!
but usually, after this happens I won't be able to log back on for hours!

Evenso, I will make especially sure that I log out properly each time, now and see if that solves the problem!

Thank you SO MUCH!


( Posted by: Serenem [Member] On: August 13, 2004 )

You are welcome. Glad someone else is still around lit at this time.

( Posted by: peterpaulino [Member] On: August 13, 2004 )

Melinda's plea for help
Hi Melinda, I have had trouble logging in too, therefore not being able to rate a poem, but can always log in where I comment or submit. It is a little frustrating login each time but it is better than being left out! Hope this helps.


( Posted by: nae411 [Member] On: August 13, 2004 )

Peter, Nae and Claire
Thank you all so much... so far so good!

I'm going to have to log off for a bit, but I'll be back in about an hour. Hopefully, I'll have no problems logging back on. If Nae has posted her poem and I haven't been back for two hours, I'm probably having trouble logging on, so if someone's ready and wants to take part 16, they can have it and I'll take the next open space!


( Posted by: Serenem [Member] On: August 13, 2004 )

thank you, but when this is happening it will not let me log on that way, either. I've tried it before.

I appreciate your trying to help, though.



( Posted by: Serenem [Member] On: August 13, 2004 )

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