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Americans, sometimes even more progressive ones, have become the most obtuse people ever to walk the Earth. I have never understood how people can allow themselves to be indoctrinated so easily by pundits.
The Left doesn't seem to really have any well-known pundits, as such. The only one I can identify is Howard Stern. He seems willing to teach people when he's not shocking them. He has an eloquent and well-informed African-American woman on his show. Is that why people won't listen to him? It seems if me that African-Americans are the most sociopolitically intelligent segment of the nation.
Yet Americans won't listen to anyone unless they have lots of money, or are close to it. What makes people feel well-informed about being spoon-fed their political beliefs by someone like Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity?
"Well, let's get some honest answers about what's up in the world from a guy who just makes fun of the other side of the issues while he hits us over the head with his and his sponsor's views, while complaining that 'Fahrenheit 9/11' ‘doesn't present a balanced viewpoint.’" I find it fascinating that these same people call the Media 'liberal' when it's obviously very tightly-controlled by the rich. How else did Bush get away with all he's done?
Getting back to pundits, I must point out to the right-wingers that they have a much greater number of pundits and that their leaders rely on these people's one- sided diatribe very heavily to marshal the opinion of their followers. We in the Left still have, all by his lonesome and nowhere near as vitriolic, whatever you think of his antics, Howard Stern. At least he's not on pills.

The Alienist

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The following comments are for "Get'chyer Right-Wing Indoctrination! Right this Way!"
by The Alienist

On Manifest Manifestos
I was left with the same aftertaste after reading The Unabomber Manifesto, except The Alienist, in some places, had reversed polarities.
Compared to The Alienist's (if treating his collected works as one) and the Unabomber's, the communist manifesto is as appealing as yesterday's grits.

( Posted by: Teflon [Member] On: July 27, 2004 )

right wing
Al Franken, Ralph Nader,everyone in Hollywood...all lefties!!! I love it..."at least he's not on pills" EXCELLENT!!!!!

( Posted by: arc [Member] On: July 27, 2004 )

Oh, people, people...
Clairesbest, you're kidding. When I'm attacking the right-wing for having so many yes-men out there, of course I'm not going to bash my side: I'll do that in another article sometime. I promise. In fact I was very close to a situation in which Michael Moore was very embarassed, and I'll tell that story sometime soon. But accusing me of being afraid of the right doesn't make any sense. I chewed you peeps a new arsehole because it needed doing: Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh outright lie, and when Rush Limbaugh helped dredge up support for NAFTA he hurt a lot of people, and he didn't care. He's a horrible person. And his fans are mindlessly slavish. They just sit there and truly become dittoheads. "Let's prove we're mindless and go see Rush Limbaugh because he says everything we want to hear." What was America supposed to be about, anyway, if people are going to be like this? "Please indoctrinate me, manipulate me, puh-leeeeze!"

Sure, moderates probably could use some representation, but they wouldn't have enough color in their faces to show up on the TV screen. };]

Thanks, Teflon. And Arc, those people are politicians, in my mind not true lefties. They're part of the game, and I think they're manipulative, so much so that I cannot be sure they really represent what we think. I'm behind Cynthia McKinney.

( Posted by: The Alienist [Member] On: July 27, 2004 )

My God... are you saying that George W. Bush started a war to protect our country?...for shame.Are you telling me that our presedent went and started a war to keep us from turning into a country that is not aloud to have their own oppinion?..My God what has been DONE?

It's amazing how you can forget thatit was a WAR that got you the freedoms you have. It's amazing how you are blind to one idea. I don't like war, but there is a time for everything and this is a good time. Men and women of many races are dieing for you to be able to write what you write and post it on a public viewing system.

It's a shame that people are dieing for people like you who don't give a shit about others around you.


( Posted by: AbbyNormal [Member] On: July 27, 2004 )

Slight correction...Al Franken is a comedian and satirist not a politician. You're right about Nader though. Keep writing, it's fun to read your work.

( Posted by: arc [Member] On: July 27, 2004 )

My father's family in part has been here thousands of years. I suspect my family might have more control of its future, if even in a different social paradigm, than what's been unloaded on us today.

A war didn't get me any freedoms. I assume you mean the Revolutionary War. That war simply separated America from Britain. If you look at our sister nations, Canada and Australia aren't in any particularly bad shape - not that I'd want to be British, but the Revolutionary War did not establish - in the long run, especially since the Patriot Act is eroding many of these rapidly - any particular freedoms for Americans. The only REAL freedom is held by those who have the vast majority of the wealth. I live at their mercy, and if you don't notice that this is bad, then you're very complacent.

No American has died for democracy, whatever he or she may have been thinking. They were dying for choice real estate or resources or cheap labor, either keeping stolen stuff or stealing more stuff. Read the work of Maj. General Smedley D. Butler, USMC, if you doubt me. "War is a Racket"

( Posted by: The Alienist [Member] On: July 28, 2004 )

dying for choice real estate
Oh my Gosh!!! I have never thought of war that way. That is very compelling and very enlightening.

( Posted by: arc [Member] On: July 28, 2004 )

I guarantee to you that your child's life is worth infinitely more than the true objectives of any war the United States fights.

( Posted by: The Alienist [Member] On: July 28, 2004 )

look to the stars
There is a lot of support for the idea that war is a racket. I was brooding on this just the other day, that the major contenders in the last big WW are all fairly prosperous today.

What is really distressing is the business-as-usual attitudes we have today. Surely we can be creative enough as a species to imagine other possibilities for our awesome potential. We are applying caveman solutions to a modern world, and it simply can't work that way.

As for all those wings; as nearly as I can discern, it takes two balanced wings for something to actually fly. Just a thought.

( Posted by: brickhouse [Member] On: July 28, 2004 )

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