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The other night, my fiance and I saw Fahrenheit 9/11 together.

Those who haven't seen it yet, simply must.

One of the most shocking things about this terrible episode is that George W. Bush and his father have had a business relationship with bin Laden and his family going back 30 years, and strove powerfully to supress this information all this time. There was even a connection to this via a name blacked out on his military record.

These people have given Bush 1.4 billion dollars over 30 years. We paid each of them about $400 k per year to be president.

Who gets their loyalty?

These people get direct access to Bush.

Bin Laden was also given a two month head start when we landed in Afghanistan, even when we knew generally where he was - we didn't send troops to that area for 60 days!

They let him get away!

Now Bush is saying bin Laden isn't important.

If he blew up the twin towers and the Pentagon, plus another plane, I'd say he was important, no?

His family was also never questioned by the FBI nor anyone else.

The Alienist

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The following comments are for "Fahrenheit 9/11"
by The Alienist

media half-truths
Under Thatcher's fascist regime, the poll-tax riots in London, were started by a 'hard-core looking for trouble', according to the BBC news. A year later a Channel 4 documentary showed that news footage had been carefully edited to remove evidence that police had been provoking peaceful demonstrators.
Since then, I have never trusted any so-called truth from the media.

( Posted by: Ogg [Member] On: July 6, 2004 )

Another British conspiracy...
I have read a great number of sites recently indicating that the British policewoman allegedly killed by a Libyan Embassy employee was actually shot a by CIA/Mossad agent from a building under control of both, nearby, in order to justify action against Libya (bombing).

( Posted by: the alienist [Member] On: July 6, 2004 )

Another victim
Yvonne Fletcher (the murdered WPC) died unnecessarily, because British politicians haven't had the balls to be honest about their agenda for a good many years. In 1950, for example, Churchill wanted to introduce mandatory sterilisation of the so-called 'mentally enfeebled'.

( Posted by: ogg [Member] On: July 7, 2004 )

My husband and I saw this Saturday night. I was pleased to see the theater packed. Very informative, funny at times, heart-wrenching at others. I certainly learned a lot, but I wasn't surprised by the oil connections and reasons for the war.

( Posted by: Elphaba [Member] On: July 12, 2004 )

Rogue State
The above pair of words form the title of a book by William Blum, formerly of the State Department, which denounces all of the USA's secret wranglings. While certainly one-sided, it nevertheless paints a grim, realistic picture. But then, nobody's perfect. Check out the book, or e-mail the author at

( Posted by: jbicko [Member] On: July 13, 2004 )

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