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Every once in a while, a group in America manages to finally blend in. While America professes acceptance and friendliness, it can be very hostile to many groups, whether they have an historical presence here or not.
On this occasion I'd like to remark upon the success of the Indian and Pakistani and many other Asian groups in blending into America so well and so positively that I, for one, truly cannot think of them as foreigners.
In all of my public and private encounters with these people, save for a very, very rare few, I have found them to be highly civilized, productive, positive and helpful citizens who like America's diversity. Of course, this is one of the few good things left in America, so this is always a strong point, but as a group they themselves seem ready to celebrate diversity with tremendous sincerity and enthusiasm, at the very drop of a hat.
I like'em.
In addition to my experiences with these folks in the public venue, I also teach a large number of them in my classroom in NorthEast Philadelphia.
In stark, raving contrast to the attitude of the majority of my home-grown American students, they're sweet as pie. Why?
I'll roll'em off: civility, self-discipline (most of them), character, morality (yes! teenagers who aren't collecting STD's or babies in Philadelphia!), intelligence and a positive attitude, including towards ME (an authority figure, despite my anarchistic leanings).
They are also very handsome and healthy kids who will add a great deal to the American gene pool: smarts, looks and culture, including great food. I can't handle the Indian dance music videos and the movies are corny, even when they're translated (or perhaps especially when they're translated?) but the food is fantastic.
I say bring all one-point-one billion of them over and swear'em in. At least the tech jobs'll stay in America and we'll expand the tax base.
Ok, that had a sinister twist but I do mean it.

The Alienist

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The following comments are for "Indians, Pakistanis and Asians in General"
by The Alienist

Very interesting. Glad to get a real life perspective on the whole issue of foreigners. Truth is we could use more taxpayers that are educated and willing to work. And yes the Tech jobs may stay here if their willing to work for 20,000 grand a year instead of a 100. Not likely though, everyone here needs 40 to just survive.

( Posted by: brandy [Member] On: April 18, 2004 )

The real problem is that the executives that 'mislead' their companies are getting up to 500 times what the average worker in their workplace gets, only to steal more when they get the chance. That's one of the biggest problems.

( Posted by: the alienist [Member] On: April 18, 2004 )

Speaking as an Indian....
First of all, let me say it is quite refreshing to read something positive about the immigration experience, from the point of view of a "native". I think that I speak for many foreigners everywhere when I say that if more people were accepting and took a more tolerant view of differt cultures, then we would truly - i hate sounding trite and corny here, but it works - be a closer global community. And of course, this applies to any country where new people come.
After all, they are immigrating for a reason, not because its fun. Usually its bad economic conditions, political dangers, and then you have extreme cases such as refugees, torture victims etc. I think a great deal of them want to be productive members of the new society that they join, and I think their transition can be more seamless if there is acceptance and open thinking, on both sides.
In response to Penelope's comment, it is true that Hindus and Muslims are still having problems over religious differences - frankly, I wish that we could put this 50-year feud beind us; and I feel ashamed that as a country, we talk of tolerance and progress, but we still bow down to archaic logistics of what the Gita says on comparison to the Koran, and which one is better etc etc.
So as an Asian who spent 3 1/2 glorious years at an american college (though I am now somewhere else),I would like to tell the Alienist that I really enjoyed reading this article.


Pari :)

( Posted by: blightedstar [Member] On: April 19, 2004 )

Diversity rules
Recently I supported a deaf tutor (note-taking) on a 4 day training course. In UK Higher Education, many tutors don't have a formal teaching qualification, this is now being dealt with. The group was made up of a Colombian lady, two Spanish, one Italian, one Chinese (she was great fun to speak to and taught me how to pronounce 'shie de' Chinese for 'yes') a couple of English tutors and a lady from Iraq. Everyone got on together from the start, myself and the BSL translator were treated as equals. I even got to read the first verse from 'Jabberwocky' very confusing for the Middle & Far Eastern contingents! In West Yorkshire there's quite a variety of nationalities, Carribean, Asian, Chinese, Russian etc. etc. Personally I love it, what an opportunity to learn about other
people's cultures. Naturally and unfortunately we have the usual minority bunch of Idiot Nazis to try and spoil things - but we just try to treat them with the contempt they deserve.
I say give me variety and its spices (not too much though - I get chronic wind).
Paul the International Ogg

( Posted by: Ogg [Member] On: July 17, 2004 )

Combat 18
You need someone like AntiRacist Action or the SHARPs (Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice) to come over there and help you with these losers.

( Posted by: the alienist [Member] On: July 17, 2004 )

Thanks for the offer, but the Anti-Nazi League, of which I'm a member, are doing okay. Frankly, you seem to have enough problems with the Idiot Bush. Racism is an insiduous disease and the cure hasn't been found, yet. Politics, in its present form, simply isn't working. Corruption has nearly destroyed our faith in those we reluctantly vote to represent us.

( Posted by: Ogg [Member] On: July 18, 2004 )

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